Discussion: Trump 'Genuinely Conflicted,' Considering Keeping Rosenstein

Do it, motherfucker. Do it and suffer the consequences.

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I see. Now we’re going to play “Celebrity Apprentice” with our American system of law enforcement.
Scotland and Ireland are looking better and better all the time.

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More anonymous trial balloons from Javanka. Means nothing, yet expands the obstruction. A twofer!

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There is nothing genuine about Donald, other than being a moronic self centered asshole.

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I don’t see what Trump’s in any perplexity about. Rosenstein has strongly denied doing anything like what was reported, and in Trumpian physics a strong denial cannot be made by anyone but an innocent person. It’s open and shut.

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a la Kavanaugh, right mattinpa?

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and Putin. And if I recall correctly Roy Moore and pretty much anyone Trump likes who denied the child molestation, international election tampering, grave robbing or whatever it was. Every time Trump is careful to point out that the individual hasn’t just denied it, he or she has strongly denied it, it wasn’t just a mere denial, it was a really most sincere denial, and there’s an end of it! It has the same legal force as a provable alibi.

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And, remember Capone!

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Trump Genuinely Conflicted… ABOUT EVERYTHING sad!!!

Trump wants Rosenstein gone, and Mueller gone, and… But Trump is too much of a chickenshit to fire anyone personally, and in these cases, sending his manservant over there with a note isn’t going to cut it.

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The concept of Trump being conflicted is difficult to fully grasp. You have to believe one thing, then be confronted by facts or opinions that have you doubting that initial belief, leading to consideration of another position. Ergo you’re now conflicted. Yet Trump has no beliefs, other than “What’s in it for me?” I doubt he’s ever truly conflicted. He is always merely in the process of analyzing the best angle to execute whatever grift he’s running that day.

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‘Conflicted’ or ‘Confused’ ?

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He’s conflicted about which path is better or worse for himself.

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Trump keeping an open mind means if someone blows in one ear it comes out the other with no obstructions.
He is “Genuinely Fucked Up”, not conflicted.

Misterneutron you have hit it on the head. Spankee, who became more famous by saying “you’re fired” on the tee vee machine, doesn’t have the gonads to say it to someone’s face in the real world.

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A question for TPMers…We know there is controversy about indicting a sitting president. But all that talk seems to be about some discrete act. One that was done and is over. Either before taking office, or it was done while in office but is done.

Now, how about an ongoing crime? Where the security and survival of the republic are at stake? I sure find that to be compelling, to be able to take legal action while the guy is actively flushing our country down the drain. If you are on the fence about whether you can or can’t bring action…Mueller…an ongoing treason where the pres. is still taking calls from Putin should tip the scales.

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Only in this case, T rumpp has done so many 5-dimensional somersaults that he has forgotten which way is up, and the difference between black and white, and the difference between right and wrong, and the difference between good and evil, and the difference between Putin and America. IOW, he has no clue about anything.

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Rosenstein better hope, Donald feels like a winner tomorrow morning…

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The Founders designed a system to take care of a President like Trump. Impeachment. Congress is just as capable as law enforcement in observing an ongoing crime. They have as many, or more, investigative powers and tools to ferret out the perps and the details of criminal activities. We shouldn’t have to rely on the FBI to correct a problematic Presidency, our elected representatives should do it. That they won’t speaks to larger issues about the nation’s capability to deal with a criminal President.
I understand hesitancy to depend on law enforcement reigning in a bad President. A good case can be made it opens a President up to selective prosecution, acts of vindictiveness or retribution. Remember J.Edgar Hoover.
Better to require Congressional super-majorities deal with people like Trump, at least for byzantine crimes like we’re witnessing. I do think there should somehow be a class of crimes a President isn’t immune from prosecution while in office. If a President pulled a gun out and killed a person on the South Lawn in front of the press and camera crews it’s ridiculous to assert his arrest and prosecution would have to await the completion of his term were he to have a Congress in his hip pocket unwilling to impeach him. As does Trump. As it stands now Trump could literally murder someone in front of witnesses and escape consequences until Jan 20, 2021, if we accepted the OLC memo on indicitng a sitting President.

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