Discussion: Trump Defies Historical Trends For GOP Nominee: Trails Among High Earners

However, high-income Americans consider Trump to be preferred candidate for their personal investments, choosing the businessman over Clinton by nine points, 45-36.

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Just because…

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I know, right?

I am guessing that the thinking goes, if there is any thinking involved with those respondents, that Trump will be ineffectual, but will sign Ryan’s budgets into law, which are HUGE tax cuts for the rich…even bigger than Trump’s.

But its a VERY small poll…only 600 people, and its from Purple Strategies which is Alex Castellanos’ group.

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Vote off-shore bank account, not country…

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Don’t get this at all. I would expect worldwide markets to respond very negatively to a Trump win. I guess “if you’re do smart why ain’t you rich” doesn’t hold true any more.

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Hedge Fund Money Has Vastly Favored Clinton Over Trump. Just saying…

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“Among likely voters with household incomes of $100,000 or more, Trump falls four points behind Clinton in a two-way election contest, 46-42, according to the Bloomberg Politics Purple Slice poll released today.”

46% vs 47%? Why isn’t it 64% vs 36%? Or 85% vs 15%? What the heck is wrong with these people? I’m assuming a descent % of them have college educations, which should, theoretically, make them slightly more sophisticated, less gullible thinkers. This theory is apparently useless. Is this the white guy effect? Are white guys really that wacko in this country? Does testosterone completely short circuit male brains? Is anyone paying attention? So many questions, so little time…

Still wouldn’t trust that man with even the Philosopher’s stone.

He will prolly mess with those estimates. Not for the better, mind you, but he will be under the impression that Ryan didn’t do enough to achieve that goal.

six, sixty or six hundred, these are some of the dumbest participants walking.

This is why I’m not worried about Clinton’s poll numbers. Trump is losing White women, white college educated, and white high earners… three groups that have carried every successful GOP candidate. Meanwhile he’s alienating minority voters at every opportunity, and making no in-roads with traditionally Democratic voting blocs.

I don’t know how high turnout would have to be among non-college educated whites to offset this deficit, but I can’t imagine him winning the election with only half of the GOP behind him…

I have to resist the urge to “unskew” the polls by assuming they’re under-representing minority voters who I think will show record turnout this year, but I can’t imagine he doesn’t lose, and by a lot…

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That’s because a lot of high income folks have half a brain and know he doesn’t.

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600 folks…

Personally, I hope a reporter walks up to Stephanie McMahon and asks her about how her philanthropic and money making ideas clearly differ from Trump’s. Now the reporter should be visiting her father Vince, but his current headline is: “71 year old suspected PED user is currently recuperating after emergency surgery.”

Since Clinton is ahead among the same group despite this belief, it looks like at least some of those folks oppose Trump despite the fact that they think they would make more money under a Trump administration. I guess you could call that the “country before bank account” contingent, and if that’s their thinking, I salute them.

Of course there are probably some who suspect that a Trump administration would mean more profit for them in the short-term, but a high risk of financial, political, social, and military disasters over the longer term…and they wouldn’t be wrong about those risks.

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how many of em are male?

Eh, the way I see it is that depending on where you live in $100,000 is very good money, but it’s far from rich. Someone who started out working on the line at Ford some 20 years ago is probably making somewhere in that neighborhood. So, I’m thinking some of the people who say he’d be good for their investments don’t actually have much invested in anything beyond maybe some mutual funds and a 401K. What I’d be interested to see is a poll with people making over $200,000-250,000. IMO, that’s when you start getting into the high cotton and people with sizable portfolios.

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Thanks for your comment. I have been having similar reactions and questions. While I am totally commited to a “reality based” approach to the polls and will not try to “ubskew” them, I think you raise very important points that none of the pollsters have even tried to explain.

Here are a couple additional data points. Statewide polls in Georgia and Texas show very close races there. In Georgia, some have actually shown Clinton slightly ahead; at worst, she may be 3 points down, according to the polls. In Texas, according to several polls now, Trump is ahead by around 6 points-- also lagging way behind recent Republican nominees.

If these polls are reasonably accurate, there is no way that the national race can possibly be as close as the pollsters are saying. Looking at the internals of the national polls, they are assuming a low turnout for black and hispanic voters, but if the Georgia and Texas polls are correct, it would seem the opposite is true; otherwise those states wouldn’t be nearly as close. Just saying.

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The NBC/WSJ poll today showed HRC up 7. That’s not a close race. And there is room for her to grow in that poll. Add in the Latino Decisions poll showing very high interest in the race among Latinos and much higher support for the Democrat than in 2012, I don’t see how Trump could possibly make it up among uneducated whites. In fact, the NBC/WSJ poll shows Trump underperforming among non-college whites compared to Romney. The only demo that is softer for Clinton compared to 2012 is millennials, and it’s only because they haven’t decided to vote at all or vote third party - very few are with Trump.

This isn’t necessarily reflective of the numbers you are asking for, but it tells its own tale which I think is tangentially relevant.

He is collapsing with the Jewish donor class. Romney brought in roughly 29% of their money in 2012…Trump is looking at 5%

Speaking of which (and I apologize if this has already been covered today, but I am basically busy day right now through election day), this was an interesting point of discussion.

Talk about conflicts of interest!!

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