Discussion: Trump Budget Director Suggests Meals On Wheels Doesn't Show Results

It’s absolutely breathtaking how disgusting they are.

Now feeding the infirm is losing to the war machine. Fucking assholes.

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No, because Bush didn’t take the oil the way Dear Leader would have done. Had he supported the Iraq War. Which he didn’t. Except for when he said he did.

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“We have looked closely at this program, and it appears to us that a vast majority of people who receive that service eventually die. We consider the program not only ineffective, but very probably lethal.”

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We already spend as much or more than the next 7 countries combined on the military - as someone upthread said, let’s see the results from the Iraq & Afghanistan fiascos.

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You’re exactly right. I have a friend who was the director of a Meals On Wheels program in CA and she told me that many of the recipients of this program rely on the delivery not just for the food provided but for the visitation of a person who would take a few minutes to just talk to them. It was also an opportunity for someone to check in on them to see if their living situation had changed or if the person was sick or in any danger.

Also, these programs are grossly underfunded as is. She made deals with local bakeries and other food service businesses to get their leftovers - food that would otherwise have been thrown out - to help flesh out the meager meals they could make with the funds they had. Plus, they held several fundraisers each year and relied on occasional donations from local business.

These elderly people aren’t getting steak and lobster, they’re not gaming the system, and they do not feel “entitled” to these hot meals. No, they rely on them for sustenance for survival.

This is the most heartless budget proposal I’ve ever seen and I hope it sweeps these 'pub asshats out of office and out of public life permanently!

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The GOP Health Plan for Seniors. Hell, for all of us…

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It used to be a joke…

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The meals in this program aren’t even free to those who receive them. Older folks pay a small amount for a small meal and some human contact. This is a service which benefits the families of the elderly as well - they can go to work with the peace of mind that grandma or grandpa eats something healthy and is checked on. Mulvaney and everyone he represents make me physically ill. He gave the same cavalier dismissal of after-school programs in lower income communities - there’s no evidence that they produce any results.

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And defense spending. Remember when Rumsfeld was supposed to discuss the $2 TRILLION from the Pentagon that had gone “missing” and was unaccounted for? That was supposed to happen on 9/10/2001.

Funny how the focus shifted 24 hours later…

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Leave it to Trump to put the most depraved, soulless monsters in his whole basket of deplorable in at EPA and OMB.

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We were typing at the same time, but you said it better than I did.

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And for the bestest example of how this experiment works just check out Kansas.

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We have to believe these vile sociopaths are outliers and that average Americans as a rule will respond to their cruelty with disgust and outrage, right?

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This shit just knocks the snark completely out of me.

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“We can’t spend money on programs just because they sound good. Great, ‘Meals on Wheels’ sounds great.”

The DoD has spent $163 billion in cost overruns on an F35 program that sounds good. How many years of Meals on Wheels would the cost overruns fund?

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Sure you can feed healthy meals to elderly home-bound folks, but go back the next day and they’ll just want more food. Stop feeding them and the problem will soon resolve itself with exactly the “results” that Trumpublicans are looking for.

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If you can, read Nick Kristof’s editorial. Everyone in this administration and the Republican house and Senate make me ill. A pox on them all!

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Well if their big bros hadn’t spewed so much carbon into the atmosphere there would still be ice bergs in which to park the elderly and let nature takes it’s course. Unless Mark Burnett with Pres. Trump as executive co-producer want to create a new reality show out of it.

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Your point about the added peace of mind for family members is something I overlooked. We’re both right about this program and I’d forgotten that the fee for this service is based on a sliding scale.

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I think we should take his concerns very seriously. If there’s anyone out there who knows how to not show results, they’re probably working for Donald Trump.

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