Just what we all need, the return of the “free wheeling” Don Trump.
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But long story short, you know, there’s no reason the Congress can’t do its plain duty and impeach this man. The GOP doesn’t want to and never will, but they may have to.
[/quote]Right now, Trump is like an asshole substitute teacher. He gets up in front of class and gives some idiotic rant, but then ignores the class to flirt with Ms. Kleevage from down the hall.
The Congressional Republicans are the kids in that class. Sure, Mr. Trump is a dick and he doesn’t know shit about French, but they get to do whatever they want. He’s more interested in Ms. Kleevage and trying to get a tenured position to bother with a bunch of teenage boys, who spend their time chewing tobacco and swapping Playboys. They don’t like him, but have no reason to want him gone.
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Coudn’t agree more. Among the non-ourselves things that won’t save us, at least not in time, are changing demographics. I don’t think we can afford to write off any gettable vote and I wouldn’t suggest that. I’m just saying actual, directly felt economic anxiety was not as strong a factor as it was immediately suspected of being, and nobody needed to be scolded about empathy. If you’re economically anxious, if you’re worried about losing your job, you should vote for Democrats. The key, I think, is to get people in the very slender gettable middle to realize that. I don’t think otherwise and wouldn’t have deliberately given that impression.
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I get this, but I sort of want to know where the crazy, certifiable line of delusion sits with some folks.
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These are also people that simply put can’t handle change, and especially change that is happening rapidly right now.
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Yeah, the “economic anxiety” factor was pushed hard because (a) Putin’s bot-army supported on social media and (b) MS media didn’t want to say the truth, which is that the hardcore 18% are insane racists.
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http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/2018-house/
Larry Sabato disagrees with that assessment. As do quite a few House watchers, including myself.
Here is the thing. That soft support is already peeling away from him. In each of the 4 House special elections, we saw +20something republican districts become single digit elections. There is no need to focus any effort on reaching into the hardcore Trump base, indeed I would argue trying to do so will hurt those gains and hurt us with our own base.
The Senate is in play already, too. Its not supposed to be by any stretch, but it is. The two most vulnerable republican seats, Heller and Flake, are now upside down against potential Democratic foes, and are both facing bruising primaries. Meanwhile, republicans are struggling to even find candidates to run against Dems in the states that Trump won, where we are vulnerable. McConnell is worried, make no mistake about that. Ryan is shitting his pants, because not only is his majority about to evaporate, but he is struggling to hold on to his own SEAT.
As far as support for Trump, its pretty much been in free fall for the past several months. No upticks, just every week another point or 2 drop off. And there is no credible reason to think Trump is suddenly going to “pivot” and turn everything around. He won’t, he will only continue to make more bizarre and outlandish scandals. All the while Mueller’s investigation is tightening the noose.
But the main fallacy here is…we don’t even need to peel off Trump supporters to vote for Dems. We merely need to keep them demoralized. Keep in mind, all the bragging he and his campaign did about turning out voters who don’t regularly show up. Guess what that means? They are unlikely to show up in midterms, and if demoralized, they are even more unlikely to show up.
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The most astounding things he claimed was how much he’s done and all the success he’s had so far and how it’s just going to keep increasing. When he’s done almost nothing but sign bills that do nothing.
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“Economic anxiety” has long been used as a dog whistle, even in times of actual economic stress. I feel it took on a more sinister tone under the prior administration as part of the GOP’s War on Obama. “Are you worried about your job? It’s the black guy’s fault!”
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we don’t even need to peel off Trump supporters to vote for Dems. We merely need to keep them demoralized. Keep in mind, all the bragging he and his campaign did about turning out voters who don’t regularly show up. Guess what that means? They are unlikely to show up in midterms, and if demoralized, they are even more unlikely to show up.
OK, I’ll take this point. Let’s say that, in my colloquialism “peel away,” I included not only getting those who could be persuaded to vote Dem, but also those who could simply be depressed enough to stay home. Same-same.
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Yes.
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Au contraire, he’s done great damage on a variety of fronts. But I do get your point.
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Agree dr_c. Amazing that he still has 80% support among gop voters. Latest from Gallup. % Trump Support by party affiliation.
Republicans Independents Democrats
79% 31% 8%
2017 Aug 14-20
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True, he could care less about policy and leaves them to their own devices. But I’d put it rather that they hoped it would work out, but unfortunately it’s not working out. From the on-background comments I’ve read over the past months, maybe three-quarters of the House and nine-tenths of the Senate would, in fact, like to see Trump gone and Pence in his place. But they would want it to happen painlessly, without surgery. Who could blame them? But they may decide the situation requires action not because it’s their duty, not because it’s right, but because it’s the most politically expedient thing. McConnell’s letting it be known he thinks Trump’s presidency is failing and may not be salvageable, that’s a BFD in my humble view.
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And a corollary is not unnecessarily giving those who are depressed enough to stay home a reason to vote.
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I just don’t understand how they don’t impeach him and put Pence into office. Pence would actually know how to rubber stamp the agenda that Congress wants.
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In 1973, U.S. Ambassador Thomas Patrick Melady recommended that the United States reduce its presence in Uganda. Melady described Amin’s regime as “racist, erratic and unpredictable, brutal, inept, bellicose, irrational, ridiculous, and militaristic”.
(Per wikipedia, with added emphasis.)
Sounds about right.
… On second read, eerily so.
@soneill34: My guess is that Paul Ryan sees this as his chance, and is hoping that Pence scuttles himself with Trump. But that’s just cynicism, probably.
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He’s absolutely out of his mind. In the Afghanistan speech (presidential much, really?) he did highlight the need for the country to be united, in what some of the pundits said might be a tacit acknowledgment that he had screwed the pooch re his C-Ville “many sides” madness. And now this.
For me the topper was the implication that he’ll pardon Sheriff Joe Asshole. I can’t think of anything more inflammatory and divisive: a slap at the judiciary, the rule of law, due process for “even the undocumented,” latinos and society as a whole. That alone would be grounds for impeachment in my book.
It’s crystal clear to me that he’s so mentally unstable he must be removed from Office as soon as possible. But McConnell and Ryan must get their obscene tax cuts first, the country be damned. I guess we have to wait for Mueller to expose his financial criminality and collusion with the Russians for impeachment and removal to happen. It simply can’t come soon enough.
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yes! its ok… but leave off the ‘depends wearing’ label…most of people who wear ‘depends’ do so because of health issues…I don’t know why TRUMPf wears them.
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