Discussion: Trump Backtracks: If Abortion Were Banned I'd Punish Providers, Not Women

… punish the provider… punish the providee…

What’s the diff…?..

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Great…NOW women will all jump on board…

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It is a gross violation of privacy to get between a woman and her doctor. It’s that simple.

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Here’s the problem for Trump (and anti-abortion folks in general) – the procedure they object to is not done to the woman, but to the fetus. They don’t object to women having uterine scraping procedures for endometriosis, or even hysterectomies, or open heart surgery. They object to the ending of the pregnancy.

If the doctor is performing the abortion on the woman, then it’s her choice to get the medical procedure. That is what Trump is claiming now, that the person who sought out the procedure and paid to have it done is the victim of the abortion and not the fetus. The only way to justify that is if the fetus is not a person capable of being harmed.

And if that’s the case, why be anti-abortion?

So either the fetus is a life and abortion is murder and the woman sought and paid for murder, or the fetus is not a life and the woman is blameless so abortion is just a medical procedure.

Pick one, you can’t have both.

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Once again, the Donald demonstrates his delusional and woefully uniformed understanding of the world in general, and in this case, of women’s health and reproductive rights in particular. Aside from every other reason to ensure that he never becomes President, he is clearly incompetent for any position of public trust. In short, Trump is a loooooooser!

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Well, we do it for lots of things. A doctor can’t prescribe a woman recreational drugs, or remove limbs because a woman thinks it makes her more attractive, or bleed them in order to extract the spirits making them sick.

The government regularly gets between people and their medical providers. You may think that this situation should be legal, but universalizing the right to unfettered medical care with no regulation isn’t tenable.

Circuit party Hitler…

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from the morons…er…pro-lifers i’ve dealt with, it seems to boil down to that they equate abortion = birth control. And they think that WE think that is all that it’s for. And since they are against birth control…

… at least from what I can make out… my ARGLEBARGLEBABBLE translator usually goes on the fritz around these guys…

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Drumpf must’ve gotten a call from Bill O’Lielly.

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Too late Yam!!

You’re on tape and we’ll never let you forget it. Ever.

What a maroon. THANKS FOR 2016!!!

HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHA

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See, he’s a straight shooter who says what he thinks. And I am Marie of Roumania.

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Too late dim-whit…You said it you own it…Punishing women! Really? The anti- choice cretins have already put women in jail…and Doctors have been murdered for a procedure that is LEGAL!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/04/01/indiana-woman-jailed-for-feticide-its-never-happened-before/

More 'christian ’ women have abortions than any other group…

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I want a president who knows what they are saying before they open their big mouth. I think that’s important,and not a lot to ask.

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Exactly. What are they going to do, create a vagina police where you have to report every pregnancy so they can monitor what you’re up to?

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Oh, he says what he thinks alright, and then he wants to wiggle out from the consequences.

This won’t hurt him with the right wing. They want to punish women too - but it will kill him with everyone else.

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If Trump is President, he wouldn’t need a button to push to start armageddon. He just needs to open his mouth… TRUMP: “Let’s nuke Russia!!”

(Randy Newman)…
Boom goes London and boom Paree
More room for you and more room for me…

TRUMP: “What I said was , let’s NOT nuke Russia. Lawsuits coming.”

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What’s that? …
You’re what? …
What!? …

It’s Donald Trump again. I can’t understand him, something about plucking chickens or something.

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I’m having difficulty deciding whether Mr. Trump’s supporters find it easy to support him, because they can count on him soon changing any initial positions they disagree with, or are so selective in their hearing that only the positions they agree with, among the many he proffers, are the ones they pay attention to.

Watching Mr. Trump’s antics is a bit like what I imagine watching an 11 dimension ping-pong tournament from a mile away must be like. The ball is so small (no pun intended) and the action is so frantic that you wouldn’t know what is going on until the score is posted - in this case, in November.

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He “says what he thinks” when he’s being reckless and spontaneous. As often as not, he hedges around, says he’ll “look at” the issue “very, very carefully.” And every night, in my prayers, I ask whatever gods may be to help our less good-at-thinking fellow Americans to slowly begin to realize they’re following a dilettante clown who couldn’t find his ass with both hands, much less form an opinion that a Magic 8 Ball couldn’t make a better guess at. Aaaaaaaargh I’m done Trumping for today, gonna do something constructive before I lose my own mind.

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