Discussion: Trump Atty: 'Irrelevant' For Zervos To Get Info On Women Not In Defamation Case

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It is absolutely certain that Trump will lie under oath, so bring on the deposition post-haste. I guess he can plead the 5th, but thatā€™s clearly an admission of guilt (even if people say itā€™s not). Get this POS under oath and then charge him with perjury. Why the hell does it have to wait until next year? Could it have a little something to do with a midterm election?

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Oh FFS please make the deposition available worldwide on PPV and we could wipe out the national debt in one day.

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De P.O.S. ition, more like.

I canā€™t wait for the howling.

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Can he plead the 5th in a civil case? Heā€™s not at risk of going to jail here, just having to write a big check. I just hope Michael Cohen has the defamation slush funds handy.

And heā€™ll definitely perjure himself. As Guliani infamously said, ā€œour recollections keep changing.ā€

Yes, one can plead the Fifth Amendment in a civil case, or in testimony before Congress, or in any other forum. Even if the case is not criminal, one could refuse to testify out of fear that the admissions made in the case could be used in a subsequent criminal proceeding.

Of course, pleading the Fifth in a civil case might lead to a judgment against the defendant for not cooperating with the discovery process. Couldnā€™t happen to a nicer person.

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Thanks. I didnā€™t know that. His problem is if he pleads the 5th here, he might have to do it 18 more times or so. That can get pretty expensive for a pseudo-billionaire.

If they do, each side will have up to seven hours.

and yet Mueller canā€™t get more than 2?

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Justice delayedā€¦

Come on, letā€™s get this going as soon as possibleā€¦the man says he has nothing to hide!

Iā€™m ready for Summer!!!

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Perhaps Trump is beginning to see that he may not be entirely above the law after all. I am particularly enjoying the fact that it seems to be the very women that he so often disparaged who are giving him the most trouble.

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In a civil case, discovery, of which a deposition is a part, is intended to permit the litigant to find relevant information. Whatā€™s admissible or not is a question for the actual trial, generally. I canā€™t see how the treatment of similarly situated women is not a perfectly acceptable area to investigate. Of course , leaks about what is discovered might be particularly damning, but the only one to blame for that is not the leaker, but the creep engaging in the conduct.

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"At a court hearing Tuesday, Trump lawyer Marc Kasowitz said the campaign shouldnā€™t have to turn over any material about other women.

ā€œItā€™s ā€˜irrelevant,ā€™ he said.ā€

A couple of observations. First, Kasowitz did not say that there was no other material, only that itā€™s not relevant. And, second, Kasowitz knows exactly how much material exists. Michael Wolff reported that Kasowitz was the one squelching Trumpā€™s ā€œbimbo eruptionsā€ during the latter stages of the campaign. I imagine Michael Cohen knows a bit about this, too.

Finally, that material may be excluded at trial as irrelevant, but that doesnā€™t mean itā€™s not discoverable by Zervosā€™s lawyers.

True; as long as it could lead to admissible evidence, the deposition question is allowable.