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I will have to wait until I laugh at something he says before I trust his judgment on comedy.
I disagree with Noah.
The Republican Party is enjoying unprecedented success in comedy, propelled by a nearly all-male slate of Jesters.
The unfunny guy who didn’t have to go begging for a late night slot but instead it came to him, is naive about women and their power. Chances are that any woman making a comedy does not have it handed to her but instead had to prove she was worthy even McCarthy and Schumer.
While I completely agree with his take on women in comedy movies. He lost me here:
“But I guess what we need to look at is how is that evolving? The first step in that is you go, OK, there’s two men of color. That’s a big jump. Pretty soon there will be a woman that’ll be added to that. And there will probably be more women, which is gonna be fantastic. And over time, that’ll happen; it’s a conversation that we need to continue having.”
That’s some “wait your turn” and “get to the back of the line” bullshit.
It’s the ultimate irony of ironies that some much political energy is being spent on whom gets to sit where in comedy. Comedy. COMEDY!!
Amy Schuler and Amy Poehler both turned down the Daily Show gig.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/27/amy-schumer-daily-show_n_7678148.html
I’m glad to know Noah got sloppy seconds. He probably saw it a safe perch unlike Schumer who seems to have wanted a challenge.
hey trevor… just take a second hard look at the photo…
Yes, I’m sure that’s exactly what the biracial, South African was thinking, “get in the back of the line” as opposed to “it’s just a matter of time and that’s a good thing”.
Wow, looking at these comments…Am I at WND, Stormfront, or Fox, where the black guy from South Africa complimenting women in comedy needs to be roundly ridiculed and insulted for suggesting women in comedy are more powerful?
Yeah, I feel the headline is kinda misleading it makes it sound like he is talking about power in the business side of the industry, but the actual line in context sounds like he means “powerful” more in the sense of the work they are doing being some of the most powerful, i.e. best quality, most influential, going on right now.
You’re welcome to your own opinion. However, I don’t see a place where I ridiculed or insulted Mr. Noah.
And just because someone, themselves, is a person of color or gay or a woman doesn’t mean they automatically can’t be sexist, racist, or homophobic. While he might not have meant it the way I took it, by him saying they’ll be women along soon, it follows the same line of crap that has been fed to people of color, homosexuals, and women for years. It’s not quite your turn yet, just be happy we’re letting this group in first.
Give it a break. Find a fainting couch and take a nap.
Look…funny is funny…
It’s one of the last things you can corporatize. Stewart had it and most of us both had a notion of what made us laugh as well as how rare his gift was.
In teaching English in Mexico, I once had a female student who was indistinguishable from the rest of the class…until she started her zings.
And these were not insults.
They were her verbal abilities to get people (including me) to chuckle daily. She was joy to have and her humour enlivened that class…yet, not a “trained comedy professional” I could not really tell anyone why she brought the house down every E.S.L. session.
I have seen that comedic gift, over the years, in different forms, in different genders…
I do know one thing…following Stewart as a comedian is like a saxophonist following a solo by Trane.
I totally agree-----------but the unrelenting dumbing down process means there are fewer adults who get the jokes. {{{{{{{sigh}}}}}}
I’ve been trying to trust the judgement of “The Daily Show” people and Jon Stewart regarding their choice of this guy, but so far he isn’t doing it for me. And he seems clueless about how things really are for women in the industry as it stands today. I was hoping for more from the person filling the enormous shoes of Stewart.
It is a sign of the danger we are in,that the things which evoke side-splitting laughter when presented by people like Stewart are taken
D E A D S E R I O U S L Y
by people whose political participation matches their level of derp.
All this (and much above) before he guy has even done one show? FWIW, I saw him on Stewart a couple of times, and he was funny, in a very dry way.
I have never seen him. But I would think that the last things he needs are preambles and fanfare.
He is either funny or he’s not.
But I don’t think that’s what he meant at all, that’s why he prefaced the comment by pointing out that there are now black men in a photo that was all white men until recently. He was pointing to progress.
Also, he’s right. Other than Kevin Hart, women are the ones currently with all the juice in comedy. Amy Schumer, Poehler, Fey, Sophia Vergara, Melissa McCarthy, Samantha Bee is going to have a new show out, Mindy Kalin, Maya Rudolph, Kristen Wiig, Julie Benz, Sarah Silverman, and even Taraji P. Henson are the people bringing the most funny. I’d argue that currently the funniest and best laughs on SNL are the women. To acknowledge we’ve come all long way doesn’t somehow discount how far there is left to go.