Discussion: TPM Interview: The Right-Wing Ex-Sheriff At The Bundy Ranch Standoff

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So in other words he got a lot of blow back for looking like a coward so now he is trying to change his story, which makes him look like a bigger coward.

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Too late, scumbag. “I wasn’t” and “I was never” and “I never intended” ain’t going to work here. You are now, permanently, the guy who said “It’s a strategy I was trying to get them to use.” You piece of sh#t.

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Wow. Even for a conservative, the expansiveness of this sheriff’s ego is matched only by his definition of “law abiding Americans.”

There isn’t a law abiding American among the whole lot! Least of all Clive Bundy, and certainly none of his wannabe militia friends obstructing those officers.

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Does anyone know what he’s talking about with regard to water?
Were some wingnuts called out for misappropriating federal natural resources (i.e., similar to the way Bundy illegally used federal land to graze his cattle) or was it something else?

I’d even be sympathetic to these guys (reality-challenged as they are) and their ranches, except (a) they have no problem with supporting domestic terrorism; and (b) right-wingers’ sense of responsibility being what it is, you just know they’d also have no problem with letting their cattle crap into the water supply of people downstream.

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Richard Mack is not typical of Arizona law enforcement.

“We certainly won a round here, maybe one of the little battles.”

If not for FOX, they would not be able to delude themselves that this is some sort of victory. Most of us consider it a victory for common sense, not for right wing militias, that the Feds backed off.

Anyone else incensed at how these same people call welfare recipients moochers, but this rancher habitually and with impunity mooched our common property for decades without paying?

Anyone who supports this rancher using our public property as his ranch and still criticizes any other welfare recipients is just another ultimate hypocrite.

The very fact they attempt to differentiate is proof of it.

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The water thing in CA has to do with drought. Over the last 20 or 30 years (?) there has been tremendous agricultural growth in the central part of the state, especially the planting of nut trees, but also all sorts of water intensive crops including rice. The central part of the state is a desert. Over the last at least 5 years the water has been significantly restricted due to drought. As someone who drives I-5 from San Diego to San Francisco periodically, I’ve seen roadside signs for several years complaining that Rep. Pelosi, Sen. Boxer, and someone named Costa are personally responsible for water shortages. Yep, them and God got a thing going for sure. In any case, the drought has gotten to the point that water is being severely rationed this year, but I’m pretty sure it’s the state, not the feds calling the shots. A lot of the water for the Central Valley comes from the Sacramento River Delta. That Delta also feeds all of the Bay Area and a portion heads to S.CA, which is to say that a finite amount of water has to stretch a long ways. There are ranchers and farmers in the state who are in severe straights over lack of water. They may actually lose their farms/ranches over this. It’s called a drought. It may be called (OMG!!!) climate change. One may legitimately disagree with how the state is allocating water, but it’s hardly a Big Government Conspiracy. Politics, yes. Dramatically opening a dam would be foolish and counter productive, but hey!, if Conspiracy United says it a good thing, that must be true.

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Thanks for the well-considered answer.

FIRST he said:
“It was a tactical ploy that I was trying to get them to use.”

THEN he said:
“The mistake I made was it was never a strategy. It was never strategized. It was never talked about. The women just did it,”

This guy’s a lying weasel.

He’s always called a former sheriff. Voted out?
Why does he still have flashing lights?
The guy is totally delusional.