Discussion: Top Republican Faces Tough Questions About Health Care At Oregon Town Hall

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And audience member declares:

"You don’t make the plan better by taking away insurance for 24 million people across the nation.”

The crux of the matter is that the GOP plans are concerned with lowering federal spending on ACA (hence their language oft used around “efficiencies”) - not to lower the deficit - but instead to make way for tax giveaways to the very wealthy. This is all important to the GOP. (Side note: when in modern history - have huge tax cuts to the very wealthy ever led to job creation and general prosperity to the general public?)

The GOP’s version of “making it better” treats the rest of it’s citizens (those of us not among “the very wealthy”) with callous disregard.

A big FU to those who lose insurance.

A big FU to those with pre-exisiting conditions.

Another big FU to those who don’t have thousands of dollars in the bank to cover extremely high deductibles that were common among pre ACA ‘lower cost’ insurance plans.

A huge FU to everyone - sending us all back to the days when the most common cause for people declaring bankruptcy was due to medical emergencies - including folks who had health insurance.

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More proof that the Republican Party has mutated into the same exact entity that the Communist Party was in the USSR.

Republicans and Soviet Communists both believe that the sole purpose of government is to enrich a tiny elite at the expense of everyone else.

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We need to make each and every Republican from the top to the bottom defend that little Brownback/Laffer experiment currently in progress in Kansas.

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I agree. Longest running political myth (taken as biblical truth by the GOP) of my adulthood. Brownback’s experiment (I still can’t believe he was reelected) should be text book for the GOP, but it isn’t (due to mythology - oh an an incredibly large rw corporate media that reiterates the myth multiple times a day.) Let’s start with members of the House - starting with PAynul Ryan.

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The good news is that more people are actually taking a second look at the dunces they casually reelect.

It’s about time. Their mediocrity is obvious.

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I’d say it was a raucous caucus.

"The congressman said that he wants to keep certain parts of Obamacare, like protections for those with pre-existing conditions, but change other aspects of the law.

‘I want to fix it, so it will work,’ Walden said, per OPB."

Except it has been proved that that won’t work. To cover pre-existing conditions there has to be a large pool of healthy people investing in insurance. The Republicans want to cut that pool back to almost nothing. End of story.

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I think it more than that, I believe after all the fighting about enacting the PPACA more people are more knowledgeable about insurance and the health insurance industry. Change is hard, but when you finally get what the program does, how it helps, and seeing what happens in states that didn’t expand their Medicare going back doesn’t look too good, idiots or mediocrity notwithstanding.

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The anger aroused by the tea party never really went away. It’s often irrational, and it takes a giant bat to the side of the head for them to change their focus, but I think that’s finally happening.

When it becomes this nakedly obvious that their Congressman is out to screw them, the light bulb goes on. Plus, there’s got to be a few progressives in that bunch as well. I hope they all voted - or at least, I hope they all vote next time.

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Side note: when in modern history - have huge tax cuts to the very
wealthy ever led to job creation and general prosperity to the general
public?

The answer to that is a resounding NO, and it has been tried twice, recently, under Reagan and under Bush Jr.

It’s the world’s most blatant self-serving argument: Make me and my friends richer and that will be the best thing for everybody. It has been roundly disproven, but they never let it go.

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I’ll admit I haven’t been keeping track as closely as I used to, but isn’t it also these Republican Nudnicks who mess with the bankruptcy laws every time they can to make it harder for people to do bankruptcy in general?

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If only the people of the country mattered to Republicans…

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It’s funny how he talks about fixing it rather than eliminating it when he faces informed opposition. He needs to tell his buddy Ryan that repeal is not the right answer. When they don’t think about real consequences it’s easily to gleefully talk about repeal.

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Sometimes I wonder if the “moderate” Republicans like this guy aren’t the real enemy. He, Ryan and the gang were really trying to screw the American people to free up money for their donors. Luckily they got caught. Now they are paying the price, but if you think for an instant they aren’t going to try again you are sadly mistaken.

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He’s a moderate??

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Wow. So there are a few Americans who are now awake! Who knew?

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That is the reason for the quotes. The press seems to be trying to separate the Freedumb Caucus crazies from guys like Ryan. Ryan and Walden want to steal for their donor friends because they are crooked grifters plan and simple. The Freedumb Caucus want’s to burn the entire government down.

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'the AHCA is a “work in progress” that “needs to be improved,” …uh huh. So for 6 years you sat on your asses and didn’t do a damn thing and now you want everyone to sit back and ‘accept’ the ‘disruption’ because you got ‘phases’? WTF Chump?

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Phases, they ain’t got no stinking phases. If they did they would tell you about them.

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Generally when bills are a “work in progress” and need to be improved you don’t rush them to a vote to make them the law of the land. Except if you need to kill a bunch of poor people to pay for a tax cut.

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