Smart move.
But a day late and a dollar short.
As I said on another string, his behavior probably didn’t rise to the legal definition of sexual harassment, but it had a very high EWWW quotient. Reason enough for him to go.
PaT a womaN on the butt and say “atta girl” is now harassing? ThiS is whY we nEed to MAGA.
in the 1990s when Oreskes worked at The New York Times,
Trump: Liberals do not know what not to do outside The Locker RoomTM</sup?>.
Actually, if they have a process in place, the smart move is to follow that process – which it sounds like what they did – otherwise, you’re open to counter lawsuits.
For WP, “The Washington Post spoke to two women who said Oreskes abruptly kissed them and stuck his tongue in their mouth without consent,”
Not sexual harassment? Whatever you say.
Very likely not. Single-incident sexual harassment has to be very serious–like rape or something close to it. And unwanted kiss, even with tongue, may well not make it over the bar, repulsive as it is.
Dude that’s assault.
I can’t wait to hear “Wait,Wait, don’t tell me” -panelists commenting on this.
Guess you’ve never been in any sexual harassment training. This would get you booted as fast as the process works. and as tena said, it’s assault.
Actually, I represent plaintiffs in employment cases. I hope that harassment trainings would teach that such conduct will get you bounced, but they are often not good descriptions of the law.
(I should mention that I am certain that others in my field would say that I am being much too conservative in my view of what constitutes harassment, but I’ve seen too many judges who put up very high barriers to claims.)
If it’s assault it is one that few, if any prosecutors would take on.
I take it you know prosecutors. They love convictions. They’d take it on if they saw a conviction in it and especially in this climate.
I know DAs too…
Did Trump get prosecuted for much worse conduct?
Unfortunately, even after all of what has come out, short of actual rape we’re not going to see many prosecutions.
(Also, most DAs are still male. And many of them, I bet, have skeletons in their closets.)
Now is the time for all the women who settled with Trump for his behavior with them, and signed confidentiality clauses as conditions for the settlements, to come forward, the confidentiality clauses be damned.
I saw your comment in that thread and understand your reasoning. What’s new (at least to me) in this story is that he did it to at least one NPRer - Rebecca Hersher. That plus,
“Some have asked me if it took published news reports for us to take action. The answer is that it did not. We have been acting. Some of the steps we took were visible and others weren’t. We have a process in place and we followed that process,” Mohn said in the staff memo. “I know people have asked for more details. The only way to encourage staff to come forward with any issues is to promise their concerns will remain confidential. That constrains us from providing details about personnel matters.”
Makes me think that he was preying @ NPR…
I think he may be (willfully or not) confusing sexual assault and being able to get a conviction. He seems to be missing the point that it’s still sexual assault regardless of a conviction.
As you note, he was on at least one person. But it did take publicity for NPR to actually act.