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Just read it. Either the guy was hacked, he’s completely flipped his lid or he was making a really, really bad run at some Jonathan Swift shock prose.
Honestly, the prose style is so sophomoric I’m going with hacked pending further evidence.
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Looks like they were hacked by Supreme Leader Khamenei.
I’m not sure that it isn’t satire, but if it is it’s not very good. If it isn’t, the guy’s a loathsome human being.
If it’s inconsistent with his own past writings, it’s almost certainly hacked. That kind of lunacy would have been noticed long ago. It sounds like someone trying to make trouble.
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Curiously, however, he hasn’t issued any statement that it was hacked. Even if it wasn’t.
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Has anybody talked to Bornstein?
Here’s one awful passage quoted in the article: Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night." - Midrasch
Talpioth, p. 225-L
This is discussed among other “quotes” from a site dealing with debunking false quotes from the Talmud. From a brief reading, it does seem to say that this line is not from the talmud or any other rabbinic source. There is an interesting discussion about this and other false or maybe false stuff.
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php?topic=48447.0
It seems likely that SOMEONE was hacked but if not, well, I don’t know what to say.
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This stuff reminds me of the Protocols and other libel but it also reminds me of quotes plucked from other holy works that seem to give license to slaughter, etc.
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I would just point out that when you profess that an atrocity becomes OK against another, then you morally have no leg to stand on if the same atrocity is visited upon you.
Excellent point. That’s as if the piece quoted from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and claimed to be by a Jew. It sounds very much like a hack by an anti-semite out to promote the favorite anti-semitic notion that Jews deny the right of anyone else to live (an irony, since such claims have so often been been used to deny the right of Jews to live).
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Replace the word “Palestinian” with “Jew” and make the post in German and you have an good facsimile of the Opinion section of any Berlin newspaper in 1938.
It that does not give you pause, well…
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I’m going to require proof of the hacking before I let them use it as an excuse. They should be monitoring their site thoroughly. Moreover, there is absolutely and undeniably an undercurrent of this belief that is growing in Israel. I question whether some “lighter” or subconsciously cultural form of it wasn’t and hasn’t been part of what has driven the expansionism from the get-go. As I keep saying: the oppressed becoming the oppressor. Victimization so often becomes an easy crutch and excuse for returning the favor. Here you’ve got a heady brew being mixed over the past 70 years: everything from the Holocaust and a massive diaspora and relocation to it being met with war in the new homeland to deny their existence to all of the religious overtones and undertones regarding what the particular choice of a new homeland means…that very specific and particular spot on this globe and all it’s history and everything that comes with it…who it belongs to, who are “blessed” and “chosen” and therefore righteous versus who are to be reviled as unholy and without humanity or deserving of it. Belief in divine providence and manifest destiny is but mere whispers away from all of that and those kinds of brain damage have a habit of growing like a cancer, eating up more and more of a society’s willingness to consider something unjustified or inexcusable.
I can’t pretend to be an expert here, because I’m not, but from my professional armchair-blatherer’s vantage point, I think Israel has some real problems with this being a growing sentiment and one that’s perhaps been cultivated, be it deliberate or unintentional, by the US’s consistent policy of unquestioning support, even when Israel is clearly doing the wrong thing, like escalating the violence, abusing its power over the region and continuing to expand with settlements and thereby provoke more retaliation and attacks from the Palestinians…all as some sort of game, it seems to me, to goad them into providing Israel with further justification for oppressing them and taking their land and killing hundreds of them indiscriminately while destroying infrastructure and schools, etc., in response to shitty homemade rockets that might, MIGHT, manage to kill a couple people at a time here and there, but frequently fail to do anything. None of it is justified on either side, but I’ll be damned if Israel is worth billions of dollars per year despite obviously being part of the problem, intentionally contributing to the cycle and being unwilling to stop the cycle to the point of manufacturing reasons to escalate it, particularly when there are indications of growing fascist and/or genocidal sentiment in the country. It’s absurd that we’re expected to blindly support this shit. Absurd.
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Seriously…I played that game with a couple of Hitler’s speeches, replacing the word “Jew” with “Muslim” and then posting his screed in articles about the islamaphobic rantings of some right winger or another. I think one was from 1923, when he was really getting going. The fuckers at Faux went ballistic over it the one time I tried it there haha…gave me the giggles.
This seems like the work of someone who is familiar with some of the more extreme teachings of Judaism which can be found in Haredi culture. The idea that Jews are created from the essence of God and the rest of mankind was brought into existence to serve their needs is still taught in certain yeshivas.
Just like there are strains of crazy religious ideas in Christian culture, Jews have their own Rabbi Ovadia Yosef and others like him. This notion of Jewish supremacy above all mankind surfaces from time to time but it is not mainstream thought except within Haredi sects and texts.
It is, however, something to keep in mind the next time someone uses the Koran to claim that Islam is a religion of violence and depravity.
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That’s not necessarily true, since the premise of the entire article is supported by Jewish Talmudic teachings. The idea that the Palestinians are less than animals and don’t deserve to live is well within the traditional teachings of Judaism. It’s safe to say, there are many fundamentalists in Israel that would easily agree with what was written. To make my point more clear, the enemy of Israel isn’t Iran, it’s Truth.
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This stuff is vile. It reminds me of posts you can see every day in the comments section of Israeli newspapers like Haaretz, the Jerusalem Post and Y-Net.
It’s nothing at all like the rest of the guy’s work, not even close. I have to think this is a setup of some kind or that his blog was “hacked.”
Thanks for making my point.
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LOL…I couldn’t help but read those in a voice like Billy Crystal doing the old Jewish dude act…or maybe when Eddy Murphy played the old Jewish dude in the barber shop in Coming to America haha. The shit that Yosef guy was saying is just too absurd for me to process it without some attempt to turn it into comedy.
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