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Muslims engage in terrorist acts and people are shocked, shocked, that there is vitriol against them.
Yet there hasnât been a backlash against the southern evangelical sects that provide by far the most of our homegrown terrorists. Snipe at that, dumbass.
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I guess the fear mongering by the GOP and the conservative media thatâs being facilitated by the MSM has nothing to do with the backlash against Islam and refugees from Syria.
But itâs not surprising that that possibility wouldnât receive much consideration when 4 of the 5 sources for the article are 2 Republican Congressmen, a Republican pollster, and the director of an anti-immigration organization.
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Stop the hate, before it consumes us all. This is America, open-armed America. If a majority donât like refugees, they should self-deport, as no doubt their own families were refugees at some point.
We live in evil times, but this is one evil decent people in this country need to stand up against.
Welcome the refugees, do not give in to fear, that is what those monsters want. Why give it to them? People ned to stop the cowardly hysteria and THINK.
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Replace the word Muslims with Americans, and maybe youâll get why your statement is nonsense. What a cowardly bigot. Un-American and anti-Christian, too. Is that how you want people to see you? Well, they do.
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I think the reason is a lot simpler than this article implies. I am going with the same reason EBOLA got blown way the hell out of proportion, fear mongering by Republican candidates and media outlets their party uses as propaganda machines.
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âPsychologists and experts in terror point out that its not geographical distance from France that matters, but the cultural ties between French and American citizens that has sparked the flurry of cold rhetoric and constituent concerns.â
This is the biggest crock of egghead shit Iâve read. The people who are using the Paris attacks to justify hate against Arabs and Muslims are the same ones who chomped on âFreedom Fries,â and demonstrate(d) their contempt for Parisians and the French for not kissing Wâs ass. Letâs call this what it is-bigotry, plain and simple.
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Yeah, you could capture it in two phrases in the article:
âGlen Bolger, a Republican pollsterâ, and âthere is very little political upside to being the sensible voice right now.â
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Canada with 1/10 the US population and more immigrants per capita is taking 25,000 and the US canât take 10,000? They are addressing the security concerns by taking only families and women and children. Maybe a bit sexist, but a reasonable compromise. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-refugee-plan-women-children-families-1.3330185 Now I suppose the Republicans will want to close the border.
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Because it is being used to tar everyone in that faith for the actions of a few bastards who have twisted its words to their own ends. So, tell me, where has the vitriol been for people like James KoppâŚPaul HillâŚDylann RoofâŚand many others who have used THEIR beliefs to do despicable acts? Oh, right. They and many others have all been painted as a lone wolf, not acting on behalf of all Christians.
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And if you had been following ISIS at all you would know these folks are Muslim in name only. It would be like calling the folks from Westboro Baptist Church Christians. And you do realize fear mongering of all Muslims, which is what you have done, plays right into the hands of the terrorists? You are basically giving aid and comfort to them. Nice going Sparky!
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Alansnipes734 may be putting it a bit over simplistic, but I think he has a valid point. And I think it very much ties in with your Dylan Roof example. Is every muslim a terrorist? no. Is every white southerner a racist? No. But there is a culture of acceptance, of enabling in both I think. It took Dylan Roof to kill 9 innocent church members before the âmoderate whitesâ took the Confederate flag down in S. Carolina, and it still flies in a lot of other states. Whites are starting to reluctantly accept now that there is a legitimate problem, Black Lives Matter, the various campus protests, our culture is slowly moving to change again. It feels like weâre in another civil rights movement here and itâs long overdue.
Iâm hoping to see the same in Islam, but the Saudiâs are still pumping out the hate without pause in the madrasas, the Taliban is still a powerhouse and Isis isnât getting thousands of volunteers because they have a great medical plan. We canât judge and turn away anyone in need, we have to be the good guys here, but we also canât ignore that there is a real reason âchristiansâ are fearing muslims right now in the same way a southern black congregation may feel a bit uneasy if 3 white skinheads in confederate flag t-shirts walked into a Sunday meeting.
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Codswallop. People should fear white christians far more than muslims. how many people are shot in a day by christians in America? Hundreds. Your apologetic post gives this ugly ignorance and fearfulness cover it hardly deserves.
Why did your ancestors come to America? Do you even know?
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Alan do you realize that this is EXACTLY what ISIS wants? ISIS wants a holy war between Christians and Muslims. If the Western countries really do come down on Islam as a whole with draconian rules. It will anger Muslims and push them right towards what ISIS wants. BTW there are 1.57 Billion Muslims in the world? Thatâs 23 % of the worldâs population. If Islam is what anti-Muslim people believe it is⌠Well do the math.
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There are certainly issues, but if you look at the Paris terrorists one is struck by the lack of deep religious history among them. Some of them hadnât even read the Koran. Most were petty criminals who became radicalized in jails and prisons. They found an ideology that they could twist to justify their murderous bent. It seems many of the ISIS recruits, at least those from the West, are drawn by the sense of adventure, of a cause greater than themselves and donât even know much about Islam. Perhaps we need to consider what alternatives we can offer young people, not just Muslim ones, to serve a positive cause rather than a destructive one.
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Agreed, I live in a small Southern Ohio town, I see people flying the stars and bars on their pick ups here, and I wonder if they even realize the people who carried that flag killed over 300,000 Ohioans? Itâs ignorance and poverty behind most of it I think, and soon enough someone comes along and points out who to blame for it.
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Codswallop?
How can I defend against that? Dear God in heaven ⌠I just wasnât prepared for codswallop âŚ
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TPM Headline:
Why The Paris Attacks Unleashed A New Level Of Anti-Muslim Vitriol In The US
(Waves hand wildly in the air)
Ooh ooh, call on me, I know this one!
Because Republican politicians, particularly its presidential candidates, are cynically whipping up anti-Muslim hatred, hysteria, and violence for political benefit.
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Immediately after any terror attack anywhere, Republicans and right-wing pundits and politicians can always be counted to go on TV and fan the flames of hate toward all Muslims. Mosques are vandalized or burned, innocent Muslims are attacked verbally and physically, or spat upon.
Not only will these events make Muslims in the West feel marginalized, but they will also provide extremist propagandists with examples of Western oppression.
âThis is precisely what ISIS was aiming for â to provoke communities to commit actions against Muslims,â said Arie Kruglanski, a professor of psychology at the University of Maryland who studies how people become terrorists. âThen ISIS will be able to say, âI told you so. These are your enemies, and the enemies of Islam.ââ
Bingo Arie! These are the words of ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who said early this year:
âCompel the crusaders to actively destroy the gray zone themselves. Muslims in the West will quickly find themselves between one and two choices. Either apostatize or emigrate to the Islamic State and thereby escape persecution.â
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