J-1s are limited to work-study programs for education and OPT visas are limited to short-term employment for training after graduation. Neither are long-term solutions for employers and, because they’re not long-term solutions for the employees–i.e., they are not going to receive Medicare or Social Security benefits–there’s no reason they should pay them. Also, J-1’s don’t bring in a half million people a year, but about 170,000, or a third of that and, as a program designed for cross-cultural understanding, I think it’s a good program. These are not our biggest problems.
I like how you treat undocumented migrants as if their very existence is law-breaking. Do you call drug dealers, murderers, or the crooks who crashed the economy in 2008 illegals? No, you only reserve that label for people whose skin color differs from the majority.
I also like how you compare them to disease and vermin, via the infestation metaphor, because there’s nothing Nazi-like about that.
I mean, seriously? Nazi rhetoric? The infestation metaphor is rhetorically toxic. How fucking stupid can you be that you would resort to that? Or are you so goddamned ignorant that you didn’t even know it was a Nazi trope?
Spot on! Sessions has never forgotten his humiliation in the Senate. The Reagan Administration had been installing fringe-right racists and anti-Semites throughout the nation’s lower courts and U.S. Attorney offices, but Sessions was the first to meet an organized front of opposition and his humiliation solidified his hate and produced a writing racist maggot in the sun that is still with us. He still seethes as a scorned white supremacist, as his “immigration” jihad demonstrates clearly. He is an unrepentant racist and whining demagogue and, thus, loved in Alabammy’ by his ilk.
And here at Talking Points Memo 2002: “Despite his record as U.S. Attorney, attorney general of Alabama, and senator, Sessions has never received criticism from conservatives or from the leadership of the Republican Party.” Of course not…they agree with him!
And that’s the thing about prejudice. It causes you to see only what you expect to see, notice only that which confirms your biases and ignore that which is disconfirmatory. And it’s that very thing that makes it so hard to see your own prejudices if you aren’t personally committed to being alert to their existence, to finding them, rooting them out and then, when they regrow elsewhere or take on a different form, finding them and rooting them out again. And again and again. It’s a lifelong struggle because, in a very real sense, we’re wired for tribalism.
Anyone who actually cares about the misuse of government power (as Republicans claim to) should have nothing for disdain for Sessions, who used his power as a U.S. Attorney to attempt to limit black voting by intimidating hundreds of black voters and accusing them of voting fraud (all were acquitted). Then he tried to unilaterally shut down an FBI investigation into voter harassment in Conecuh County, Alabama, which did result in a settlement against the county. In other words: meritless attacks against black voters and the protection of those who harass them; that’s Jeff Sessions in a nutshell.
It is IRRELEVANT that the visa is temporary work. The point is that the US worker is not hired. US kids used to work in summer camps. Today, these are J-1s. US kids used to work in parks. Today, J-1s. Hershey chocalate 2 summers ago? J-1 “education workers”, here as slave laborers. Publix supermarkets in FL? The J-1 is used to bring in cashiers.
Why is this visa used? Because when they come, their passports are taken and they are slaves. Plus the employer gets a huge tax rebate.
If you support the minimum wage, the J-1 is anathema, since the tax breaks allow a 20% reduction in the wage. And the use of the visa means that the US worker is not hired.
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WHat a false and ignorant statement.
Foreign physicians come in under the J-1. Google “J-1 physician”[/quote]
So…you’re saying it’s false and ignorant to say J-1’s are limited to work-study programs for education, yet J-1 visas for physicians require:
An agreement or contract from a U.S. accredited medical school, an affiliated hospital or a scientific institution to provide the accredited graduate medical education, signed by the alien physician and the official responsible for the training.
What weird definitions of false and ignorant you must have.
Also, we are experiencing a doctor shortage, as anyone who’s tried to make a recent doctor appointment knows, so clearly the market can currently handle a few extra docs. I have yet to see anyone panhandling on the streets with a Will Doctor for Food sign. Come up with a plan to create more American doctors without lowering qualifications or standards and then we can talk. Until then, I don’t see the problem here.
Further, I’m fine with reforming the J-1 program, but your numbers are way off. Medicare and Social Security taxes come to 7.65% of the basic wage in total, not 20%. And, no, J-1 visa holders aren’t supposed to have their passports taken away. That’s illegal and an abuse of the system, not the system itself.
That’s what is referred to as a “straw man”. Democrats/progressives don’t advocate unlimited immigration and, in fact, the Obama Administration has put more money into border enforcement than ever before. Nor does the Administration or the Democratic Party advocate unlimited acceptance of every refugee from dangerous countries; they merely wanted to accept a relatively small number of properly vetted Syrian refugees in addition to handling those seeking political asylum in much the same was as they have been handled for decades.
The current policy dispute isn’t about future immigration, but about what to do with the millions of undocumented immigrants currently in the U.S.
I’m not a Trump supporter nor am I a Cruz supporter. I will probably write in Nader. Sanders does occasionally support the US worker, and I can support him. I absolutely oppose The Pantsuit, who is the SELF-DESCRIBED Senator from Punjab.
Those of you who are dismissing this can say whatever you want. You can come up with all kinds of rationals for your contempt for those who find this issue important. Have fun. Call everyone a racist - probably 1/2 the posts above do this already.
But the issue is there. Take the current spate of modest deportations that Obama is doing. ICE is deporting those who have gone BEFORE A JUDGE and found to not be eligible for asylum. They have gone through the system. Their petition was unsuccessful. Now, they must be deported. So, what do D pols say? “Unfair. Wrong.”
The D Party is now fully on the side of the criminals. This delegitimizes the party. Don’t come crying about people who don’t enforce the law (like that dummy in KY) when the D Party is fully vested in law-breaking.
We have a system of laws. The laws set the rules. The rules must be enforced. Most here oppose Bundy’s lawbreaking, but support the sanctuary cities and the lawbreaking of the elected officials in those cities and areas. What kind of party is fully vested in lawbreaking? Not one that I support.
Meanwhile back back at the POOR FARM aka: FLINT MI. Their cries for HELP fall on deaf ears. .Mr. President when are YOU GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT FLINT MI???
First, Clinton never said she was the “Senator from Punjab.” A host said he thought she could win there and she agreed. Meanwhile, she opposed CAFTA, opposed the U.S.-South Korea free trade agreement and generally received bad marks on “free trade” from business absolutists on the issue like Cato and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.
Second, I don’t get you. You claim to be against the exploitation of undocumented immigrants and others, but then whine about “sanctuary cities” and the rule of law. Here’s the rub: In most municipalities, there is no requirement for city law enforcement officers to arrest people who are in the country illegally, because merely being in that city without papers isn’t a statute. Therefore, there is no law to be broken.
Now, why would one want it to be that way? Because of the very exploitation about which you pretended to care earlier. People being cheated, trafficked or otherwise abused cannot (or, at least, will not) seek the help of the police or other institutions if those institutions will then turn around and throw them in detention centers to await deportation. This is not being “vested” [sic] in lawbreaking, but in the protection of individuals from exploitation.
Tell it to someone with a good attorney. You must be a special kind of clueless if you think laws are followed uniformly. No wonder you would “write in Nader”.
"he reference in the headline is an allusion to an article found in the Nexis news database from the the March 17, 2006 issue of India Abroad. Writer Aziz Haniffa was reporting from a fundraiser in which “over 80 prominent Sikh professionals and entrepreneurs from the Washington metropolitan area paid $500 to $2,000 apiece” to boost Clinton’s political warchest:
At the fundraiser hosted by Dr Rajwant Singh at his Potomac, Maryland, home, and which raised nearly $50,000 for her re-election campaign, Clinton began by joking that, ‘I can certainly run for the Senate seat in Punjab and win easily,’ after being introduced by Singh as the Senator not only from New York but also Punjab. "
It’s certainly wonderful that she is dedicated to the well-being of the Indian people. She is running for the US POTUS, and India is our enemy. I certainly do not feel comfortable with her in charge with her orientation (slight pun, of course).
Obama’s commendable enforcement efforts aside, I watch Univision’s Noticias every evening and read the rhetoric on this and other sites, and rarely is there any acknowledgement that if you have an immigration policy, families will be separated and mothers with children will be arrested and deported – just to pick one boogie man I often hear . You say it’s a “straw man” argument but look at the majority of the comments on this thread. Where is there any acknowledgement in the comments or even in the article itself that there is a distinction between being anti-immigration and anti-undocumented immigration . Look at the position of groups like La Raza or Congressman Luis Guiterrez, watch an Univision newscast and then tell me my position a “straw man”.