Discussion: 'They're All Voting To Kill Them, Every So Often'

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The death penalty is intrinsically flawed in this country.

Kill my mom, or kill a drug dealer, or kill a person with a prison history, you get 10-25 years, maybe.

Kill a cop, or a cute kid, or a nun, you get the death penalty.

If ā€œall life is preciousā€, as the Pro-Birth cult claims, why are all homicides not ALL death penalty cases?

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To conservatives the government is totally, terribly, terrifically flawed.

Unless they are putting someone to death, and then government works perfectly.

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If ā€œall life is preciousā€, as the Pro-Birth cult claims, why are all homicides not ALL death penalty cases?

If ā€œall life is preciousā€, why is there a death penalty?

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History never looks kindly of experimenting on prisoners.

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So far, however, the Supreme Court continues to allow death sentences to be carried out despite problems with execution drugs and a rising number of exonerations through the use of DNA evidence.

This must change.

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Stop the DNA testing?

Why?

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If the answer to barbarism is the same, no one is safe.

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Republicans: The government can’t do anything right!

Republicans, after a botched execution that proved their point: Nailed it!

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Sadly, I suspect a correlation with the defendant’s net financial worth.
Why not ask,

Why are ANY homicides death penalty cases?

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Anyone who thinks that the death penalty deters murder is, well, insane.

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I agree with your sentiments completely, but I would really like to stop calling the Far Right ā€œconservatives.ā€ They are not conservative regarding money (see wars, Israel, tax breaks for the wealthiest among us and also to companies which send jobs overseas and even claim to be overseas themselves just to avoid taxes); they are not conservative about the Constitution (they evidently can’t read the actual words of the 2nd amendment, they bend and twist the document out of shape to fit their distorted ideas of what is right); and they certainly aren’t conservative about the environment in any way.

Let’s just call them Right-Wingers, TeaBaggers, or ANYTHING except ā€œconservatives.ā€

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ā€œIf your chain of reasoning is that the death penalty is arbitrary and
therefore unconstitutional, why are other long prison sentences not
unconstitutional. If anything, the noncapital system is more arbitrary,ā€
Mandery said.

This is an important point. Many people on death row have been freed after false convictions because of the appeals available to them in death penalty cases. A lot more people are serving life without parole and have at least credible evidence of innocence but don’t get the chance to prove their case because they don’t get the attention or the extent of appeal that we give to death penalty cases.

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how can you be both pro life and pro death penalty at the same time?

Before or after you succumb to RWNJ pantswetting fear?

jw1

The lawyers for the John Wood repeatedly called the justices on the Supreme Court while the execution was being botched by Republican Jan Brewer’s executioners. We expect the justices on the Supreme Court to be experienced and qualified enough to take life and death decisions with solomonic wisdom. Jusitice Scalia had no problem overturning and election and anointing Dick Bush in the presidential election in a hurry. The press needs to do a complete investigation of the judiciary’s response and hold people accountable.

Well, they’re at least ā€œwrongā€.

The reason I’m not with you on ā€œinsaneā€ is that, very often, a recitation of the facts of whatever the perpetrator did to his - almost invariably ā€œhisā€ - victim[s] gets the blood boiling even for balanced, perfectly sane, principled humans.

I mean, the old joke is ā€˜I’m 100% for the death penalty but only I get to choose’, and that’s because it’s impossible to rationalize the continuation of the death penalty on any bases beyond cultism, culture, custom and tradition.

Three things that really complicate the more ā€˜normal’ ranges of reactions to the death penalty and the sorts of cases where it gets imposed are that the CJ of the SCOTUS for well over half a century how has been a right wing a-hole, there’s been a long-standing wingnut majority on the SCOTUS for years, and finally Thomas being such a horribly odd, useless, retrograde sinkhole of irresponsibility combined with a chronic resentment profile.

After not too very long, any non-rightwing sane SCOTUS justice is going to start picking between hills to die on and not.

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Don’t feel sorry at all for Wood.

Who’s the guy in the picture? What does he have to do with the story?