Discussion for article #222699
Way, way too complicated for the average republican, and it won’t stop the liars from screaming about rate increases. Like rate increases haven’t been happening every year for at least 2 - 3 decades. They are already doing it on all the FOX channels. The bad thing will be the lazy press who just act like publicists and never challenge what the repugs say.
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Tell me which year in the past fifty saw actual reductions in health insurance premiums. Premiums reflect the cost of care. Costs rise with general inflation at a minimum. Premums rise as well. What mendacious Republicans hope is that the Americanpeople are stupid enough to buy into this bs.
This alone is good reason to get them out of control of government and put a fact-based Congress in place.
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Put a fork in the GOP. It’s OVER!
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What were the average premium rate increases prior to the passage of the ACA?
If we look that up and compare and contrast with the anti-ACA dead-enders bloviating nonsense, it won’t look pretty for them.
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If you’re of a mind to believe what the GOP says, you’ll believe it, if you aren’t, you won’t.
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Meanwhile, in the real world, prices are actually going down for next year’s exchange!
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And also, of course, this will be the very first time insurance premiums increase, because before the ACA that never happened. And unicorns also flew out of John Boehner’s rear end (although they were always tipsy from all the bourbon in his colon).
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Am i the only one disappointed that there wasn’t a sound bite included from Brendan Buck in his new role as insurance industry shill, totally contradicting anything he said while he was Boehner’s spokesperson? Maybe once he gets his boxes unpacked and his office plants watered?
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What’s being censored from this intentionally narrow discussion is that insurance coverage often does not kick in under Obamacare until a very hefty deductible is paid.
As WSWS notes:
According to HealthPocket Inc., which compares health insurance plans for consumers, the average individual deductible for the lower-priced bronze plans is $5,081 a year for an individual in 34 of the 36 states that rely on the federally run health exchanges. This is 42 percent higher than the average deductible of $3,589 for an individually purchased plan in 2013.
White House officials are in the midst of a public relations blitz to boost the ACA after the technical debacle at HealthCare.gov following its October 1 launch. They have chosen to emphasize the supposed “affordability” of insurance available through Obamacare. They have deliberately made little comment on the exorbitant out-of-pocket costs that await the millions of consumers who are being mandated to purchase coverage from private insurers on the exchanges.
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Large deductibles will force people to ration or delay care, especially among those who need care the most.
The debate solely over the cost of premiums intentionally distracts from the fact that family policies may have deductibles over $12,000. Therefore many families will still be forced into bankruptcy as a result of medical bills.
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Boner looks like he just saw the latest Obamacare numbers!
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unfortunately, it’s way too complicated for the average American, Republican or not. As you noted, premiums have been going up forever every year, and when they inevitably go up again – this year or next – the Repugs are going to scream it’s because of the ACA and a lot of people are going to believe them. It will be much harder for Dems to argue, well the premiums would have gone up even more without the reform, if that indeed is true. The average American is not going to be subsidized and many of those people are going to blame their premium increases on those “subsidies for others.” Really, that attitude is the main driving force of the anti-ACA crowd.
What a plan costs depends on what it covers.
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And I’m not at all sure they are smart enough to not buy into this – at least the crowd that shows up to vote this fall.
Premiums are also tied to your age and thus increase as you age. No one has figured out how to stop that from happening 
More desperate smoke blowing by Boner.
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You and I may have a different understanding of the word “censored,” because I was able to read what you wrote without any problem. At any rate (no pun intended), when I shopped on healthcare.gov, I was easily able to compare plans to see coverage, deductibles and premiums. The higher deductibles in some plans are what enabled some people to go from no coverage to, at the very least, catastrophic coverage. This will help to prevent those people from going bankrupt due to medical issues.
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Yea, that’s why we need singlepayer
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Great Title!!!
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When did they attack Obamacare by NOT being misleading. Did I sleep through something?
Did I get stoned and miss it?
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Any premium increase no matter how small, will be blown out of proportion by the Wingers and their friends on Faux News.
Premiums could go DOWN and they’d still say they went up. If you repeat a lie often enough, the public starts to believe it.
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