Discussion: The Real Reason Rand Paul Is So Eager To Defund Planned Parenthood

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ShorterPaul:

"It’s getting harder to G(R)ift the (R)ubes™ with Trump getting all the airtime!
With an infinitesimal chance of winning the nomination for POTUS-- or being a VP selection?
It’s just about conning RWNJs outta’ as much cash as possible before I’m thrown from the Clown Ca(R)."

OK. So that wasn’t really ‘shorter’ Rand Paul.
But it is damn-well accurate.

jw1

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Republican “self-righteousness” is spot on. It permeates their whole ideology.
Nice article, Amanda.

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Well-written and Spot-On. Thanks, Ms. Marcotte.

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Well done, especially on Rand’s conflicting message to social liberals, especially the young one. (I’m 73) … but understates the rage among libertarians at both Rand Paul and his father. Even Reason magazine, a prime leader of the Paulista Cult now uses “libertarianish” to describe Rand, and reports with dismay many of Rand’s anti-liberty.positions but, curiously, has yet to even mention Rand’s deplorable pandering on Planned Parenthood.

When Rand called for “tent revivals,” that was one heck of a clue! His curious version of federalism, like his dad’s, is identical to Orval Faubus blocking Central High School with an armed militia to prevent the registration of 9 black kids, ignores the 9th and 14th Amendments, and claims states can do whatever they want.

The very definition of libertarian has been , since 1969, fiscally conservative and socially liberal, else we be merely extreme conservatives (no identity at all).

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“I’m going to try to force a vote on this,” he explained. “I think the time is now to discuss whether taxpayer dollars should be going to such a gruesome procedure.”

Well, I for one think war is a gruesome procedure. When will he force a vote on this so I am not paying for MIC shenanigans?

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At least Paul would be more consistent.

Let us face it, most of his ilk are spoiled rotten rich kids who are trying to better their fathers.

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I have a deal for them: no taxpayer funding for anything to do with reproduction at all no matter what…IF they agree to let women make choices or themselves. Simple.

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And President Obama will veto it and they’ll never get 2/3 to overturn the veto. So this is another exercise in futility all to satisfy the rabid right base. In the meantime, of course, real women’s lives hang in the balance, but what does that really mean when you’re trying to be the most hyperbolic jacka** running for president.

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When it comes to social issues, libertarian rhetoric is “hands off”, but there’s never an effort to back up those beliefs. It’s all about tax cuts for the rich. No article about libertarians should ever state their attitude is “hands off” is more like say things about freedom but back away from any attempt at policy or legislation. The marriage of “libertarianism” and conservative religion goes back decades if not centuries–the robber barons who would have been the “libertarians” of their day were eagerly defended by the earlier generations of what we now consider mainline Protestant denominations. There were lots of statements of the “grace” inhabited by people like Andrew Carnegie. This just a new version of an old alliance, as well as a continuing saga of libertarianism as just support for rich guys.

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You should see him when he’s reading someone else’s ideas.

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Interesting they’re trying to do this while protesting at the top of their voice that they are most emphatically, never have been, never will be anti-women. Of all the worthy links included in the article, this must not be overlooked.

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“(Unlike with fetal tissue, for instance, there really are people who buy and sell teeth pulled in dental offices, a practice that is both lucrative and disgusting, but since it involves men’s health care, it’s not being attacked by Republicans.)”

Seriously? Even on its own terms, this is gratuitous and absurd. I agree with my mother, who always said that if men got pregnant, abortion would always have been legal. But pulled teeth do not equal aborted-baby parts. Yes, as with embryonic stem cells, fetal tissue offers special medical opportunities that justify its use. And yes, the Planned Parenthood video is a hoax that many Republicans are exploiting for political gain.

Ms. Marcotte has too many axes to grind - and she writes way too long - to be taken very seriously. We get that she doesn’t think much of ultra-conservatives, regardless of which “ism” they claim to subscribe to. Why couldn’t she have just said that Rand Paul is exploiting the Planned Parenthood hoax to make a play for evangelical conservatives? Course, most everybody already knew that, but that appears to be the nut of her article? Essay? Whatever the hell this is.

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Oh lookee, we haven’t seen or heard from rat-hair in a while…I guess he was waiting for the “right” time to pounce on being against Planned Parenthood.

YAWN

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Rand Paul, serial plagiarist and self-accredited optometrist, now wants to eliminate access to health care for millions of low income women. This guy not only has no chance of ever becoming president but he should be voted out of office by his constituents who use the services provided by Planned Parenthood.

The Hyde amendment prohibits federal funding of abortions. Also it is ILLEGAL to sell any body tissue. In addition to fetal tissue, skin, bones and organs have also been donated by families of a loved one who has died. These are life saving tissues. Does Rand Paul also want to stop that from happening as well?

No this is purely a cynical political ploy by Rand Paul in an effort to gain notice and move up in the polls.

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Amen. Planned parenthood is the only health care option for hundreds of thousands if not millions of women across America. He’s just like his father, a racist skunk who is right occasionally, but almost always wrong about everything.

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I didn’t stop to read the entire column right away, but when I did, I wasn’t very far into it when I wondered if it was an Amanda Marcotte column. Her kind of delightful snark.

I :heart: you Amanda!

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I’ve long said that Paul doesn’t have the political acumen to pull off being in both camps at once. Its a difficult proposition for any politician. But when you combine it with his constant need to run for cover when he is confronted on nearly every issue, it becomes a laughable proposition. I mean, for a GOP candidate to have to bring out his wife to the media to defend him while he goes under cover? In the first week of his campaign??

My bet is still that he his target #1 for Christie in the first debate. He may not even be in the race for the second debate.

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Its no surprise that the “libertarian” candidates for the White House have been coming from the GOP…both Rand and his father.

Putting aside their ivory tower nonsense that inevitably falls apart as soon as the tires approach hitting the road, in practical political terms, libertarians are closet republicans, usually too embarrassed by the current GOP politicians to come right out and say they are republican. And they never take themselves seriously…just look at the parade of clowns that the actual Libertarian party has run as 3rd party candidates. They don’t even vote for them!

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If it is illegal to sell body parts how did Cheney get the heart for his transplant?

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