Discussion: The Most Manipulative Part Of The Anti-Choice Movement

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If ArborVitae is trying to hide its mission, presumably they are relying on the fact that very few Americans understand Latin these days.

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ā€˜Abortions donā€™t kill people, people kill people.ā€™ If it is OK to have guns, it is OK to have abortions.

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Itā€™s not as if thereā€™s a contest, but I always thought the most manipulative aspect of the anti-choice movement was getting everyone to refer to them as ā€œpro-life.ā€
Itā€™s a clever piece of marketing, as it forces the argument to gloss over the absolutely indispensable part of their position: the idea that a zygote is the moral equivalent of a human being.
Logically, they live and die on this single point. If you donā€™t accept that conception = baby, every other bit of their position completely falls apart.
But again, itā€™s marketing. Itā€™s no different from referring to Budweiser as ā€œthe king of beerā€ā€“and just as ā€œkingā€ isnā€™t really meaningful in this context, youā€™ll notice that (as these people use the term) the ā€œlifeā€ of which they are ā€œproā€ is so abstract as to be meaningless.
Iā€™m glad to see people finally starting to put their foot down about use of this expression, although ā€œpro-forced-birthā€ certainly deserves wider use.

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I have always believed that the anti abortion movement was not about abortion but birth control and that has now come out of the closet of the movement. The application to be a volunteer makes that very clear. Women are to have as many babies as possible, they have no right to control their own fertility. The irony is according to these people they have no rights over their bodies because they are women. I use to be a catholic and left all religion when movements like this began. I now find most religious sects have lost their centers by leaving the spiritual and entering into the secular.

Iā€™ve often thought that ā€œobjectively pro-dead-womenā€ makes the point more bluntly, but ā€œforced-birtherā€ works for me.

In most states, there are laws against practicing medicine without a license. No doubt the CPCs would claim that the procedures they perform and the advice they give out doesnā€™t constitute medical practice, but it would be interesting to see some on-the-ground investigations of that.

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Nice baby Jesus doll from the manger scene she no doubt puts on her hearth all day every day all year long. Iā€™d be hard pressed to control my urge to grab it out of her hand and put it in my mouth and start chewing while grunting in satisfaction.

If the woman in the above picture shoved that plastic baby at me, sheā€™d be wearing it in one of her nostrils! Iā€™d be ā€œstanding my groundā€

I rather prefer the grab it and eat it maneuver, but I do agree that it would be ever so satisfying to shove it in her nostril.

The funniest part of the whole photo is just how symbolic it really is. That little baby doll is, unless Iā€™m on bath salts or wildly missing my guess, is from the manger scene. Itā€™s probably usually place in a little crib in a barn-diorama, covered in a little scrap of cloth to make him look comfy, surrounded by Mary and Joseph, a few farm animals who are magically sentient and aware that Christ hath been born and the three wise men possessing the cosmic clairvoyance powers that enabled them to know, half way across the continent, that blah blah something something magic sky man became a daddy.

In other words, the woman in that photo is, almost literally, shoving her religion in our faces.

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Not to mention the obvious difference, the piece of plastic represents a child that has been born. If she was being honest wouldnā€™t she be holding a piece of plastic that looked like a zygote?

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Iā€™ve started calling them the ā€œpre-lifeā€ movement, since most of them care nothing for people who are actually alive.

When Iā€™m done chewing it, Iā€™ll give it back to her and she can then more accurately refer to it as what an unformed fetus looks like.

A zygote though last very short timeā€¦just the initial cell formed when egg and sperm meet, then the 2 week mitosis party begins to result in an embryo.

I wonder if any of the Pro-lifers EVER read the news about unwanted babies being scalded, burned with lit cigarettes, heads being bashed in because they cry.

Do you think Pro-lifers ever comprehend the suffering of unwanted babies who end up alive in dumpsters immediately after birth, or the ones who are neglected if they make it home?

I wonder how Pro-lifers justify toddlers being sexually abused, exploited by their ā€˜caregiversā€™ on child porn sites?

The Pro-lifers promote child abuse.

They need to be held responsible for those children.