Discussion for article #228982
If ArborVitae is trying to hide its mission, presumably they are relying on the fact that very few Americans understand Latin these days.
āAbortions donāt kill people, people kill people.ā If it is OK to have guns, it is OK to have abortions.
Itās not as if thereās a contest, but I always thought the most manipulative aspect of the anti-choice movement was getting everyone to refer to them as āpro-life.ā
Itās a clever piece of marketing, as it forces the argument to gloss over the absolutely indispensable part of their position: the idea that a zygote is the moral equivalent of a human being.
Logically, they live and die on this single point. If you donāt accept that conception = baby, every other bit of their position completely falls apart.
But again, itās marketing. Itās no different from referring to Budweiser as āthe king of beerāāand just as ākingā isnāt really meaningful in this context, youāll notice that (as these people use the term) the ālifeā of which they are āproā is so abstract as to be meaningless.
Iām glad to see people finally starting to put their foot down about use of this expression, although āpro-forced-birthā certainly deserves wider use.
I have always believed that the anti abortion movement was not about abortion but birth control and that has now come out of the closet of the movement. The application to be a volunteer makes that very clear. Women are to have as many babies as possible, they have no right to control their own fertility. The irony is according to these people they have no rights over their bodies because they are women. I use to be a catholic and left all religion when movements like this began. I now find most religious sects have lost their centers by leaving the spiritual and entering into the secular.
Iāve often thought that āobjectively pro-dead-womenā makes the point more bluntly, but āforced-birtherā works for me.
In most states, there are laws against practicing medicine without a license. No doubt the CPCs would claim that the procedures they perform and the advice they give out doesnāt constitute medical practice, but it would be interesting to see some on-the-ground investigations of that.
Nice baby Jesus doll from the manger scene she no doubt puts on her hearth all day every day all year long. Iād be hard pressed to control my urge to grab it out of her hand and put it in my mouth and start chewing while grunting in satisfaction.
If the woman in the above picture shoved that plastic baby at me, sheād be wearing it in one of her nostrils! Iād be āstanding my groundā
I rather prefer the grab it and eat it maneuver, but I do agree that it would be ever so satisfying to shove it in her nostril.
The funniest part of the whole photo is just how symbolic it really is. That little baby doll is, unless Iām on bath salts or wildly missing my guess, is from the manger scene. Itās probably usually place in a little crib in a barn-diorama, covered in a little scrap of cloth to make him look comfy, surrounded by Mary and Joseph, a few farm animals who are magically sentient and aware that Christ hath been born and the three wise men possessing the cosmic clairvoyance powers that enabled them to know, half way across the continent, that blah blah something something magic sky man became a daddy.
In other words, the woman in that photo is, almost literally, shoving her religion in our faces.
Not to mention the obvious difference, the piece of plastic represents a child that has been born. If she was being honest wouldnāt she be holding a piece of plastic that looked like a zygote?
Iāve started calling them the āpre-lifeā movement, since most of them care nothing for people who are actually alive.
When Iām done chewing it, Iāll give it back to her and she can then more accurately refer to it as what an unformed fetus looks like.
A zygote though last very short timeā¦just the initial cell formed when egg and sperm meet, then the 2 week mitosis party begins to result in an embryo.
I wonder if any of the Pro-lifers EVER read the news about unwanted babies being scalded, burned with lit cigarettes, heads being bashed in because they cry.
Do you think Pro-lifers ever comprehend the suffering of unwanted babies who end up alive in dumpsters immediately after birth, or the ones who are neglected if they make it home?
I wonder how Pro-lifers justify toddlers being sexually abused, exploited by their ācaregiversā on child porn sites?
The Pro-lifers promote child abuse.
They need to be held responsible for those children.