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Every dying media rag can utilize ObamaCare. The comparison was just as moronic as the recent piece on slavery by the Economist, sinking in the Atlantic. Obama is a tool for whatever ails you.
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I’m having a hard time with the comparison. W said “Mission Accomplished.” PO said the mission has just begun and recognizes the complexities.
I may not think this is the best idea in the world but the Economist has drawn a very thin analogy.
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“then concludes that there’s still more Obama could be doing.”
I’d bet my left nut that it doesn’t then say anything detailed about WHAT constitutes “more”. But no, I’m not going to read it…The Economist has become trash, just like the rest of the industry formerly known as journalism.
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Funny cuz it’s true.
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I find it to be worse than a “very thin analogy.” It is the Economist’s attempt to be edgy by assigning George Bush’s props and simplistic slogan to this President - who never said or did anything similar. I am okay with questioning policy, but this is just a cheap attempt to get noticed.
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Again, it doesn’t matter what this president doe, someone is going to get their feelings hurt. Who cares what the economist says, President Obama had to go after the terrorist because of national outrage. If he would have done nothing than what??? Again, if he would have done nothing than what???
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Perhaps this helps illustrate the complete and utter breakdown in rational, coherent thought represented by the MSM’s false equivalence paradigm:
http://www.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/funny-test-answers-smartass-kids-6.jpg
Yes, Economist, “six = 6”…good job…now, go take your meds and get ready for nap time.
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“W said “Mission Accomplished.” PO said the mission has just begun and recognizes the complexities.”
That’s the comparison the Economist is making, though. If anything this looks to me like a shot at Bush’s Iraq bumbling.
They say Obama had been failing until now although a couple of years ago, the punditocracy was getting on him for not being more aggressive in intervening in Syria, but if he had done that (i.e., significantly weakened the Assad regime) it would be a disaster right now.
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Odd that TPM didn’t provide a link to the article itself, which is actually quite hawkish:
Americans will grumble about the superpower’s lot. Of course, European allies can do more; of course, Asia’s emerging powers should support the world order. But it is also plainly in America’s interest to stay involved—and, when necessary, to show that it will put its might behind right, if only to deter the world’s tyrants and terrorists from further mischief. Although the mission to stop IS will be long and hard, it is one that no other nation could even contemplate. Mr Obama is right to relaunch it. Now he must see it through.
Crikey. Looks like EVERYONE is on board for another round.
Ahh… Doubtless the Economist will fail to mention the fact that they were snivelling cheerleaders for the illegal War which destroyed Iraq, and plunged it into the civil war which empowers ISIL.
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I don’t know why Dems aren’t making the point that all of this tumult in the Middle East and North Africa was set in motion by the power vacuum the Bushies created in Iraq. A lot of conservatives are, of course, out there touting this as validation of their splendid little war when, in fact, Syria and Iraq would most likely otherwise be at peace today – if under the boot heels of tyrannical dictators, but that’s not really much different than where they are today.
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Then what? The nations of the region would have had to get off their butts and actually fight. The US spent untold billions and almost 10 years building an Iraqi Army and they melted away when asked to defend the country’s second largest city. Syria has air power and an army that pretends it can take on Israel, yet can’t beat a rag-tag bunch of ruffians. Turkey has an advanced army and air force yet they sit on their asses while several 100k refugees flood their border. The Saudis-how many F-15s have they bought?
I wouldn’t mind the US providing support to these regional powers-satellite reconnaissance, NSA stuff, etc. but I don’t think Obama should be immune from criticism for getting the US into something without a clear end-game. Keep in mind that he and Sarkozy et al. helped get rid of Gaddafi, and Libya is not exactly a paradise right now.
Actually The Economist is still a very good read. If it’s trash you’re seeking you need look no further than the sophomoric post just below yours.
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Obama Derangement Syndrome = False Equivalency Comparison Fail.
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Those sniveling cheerleaders are still there, cheering for THIS
IS has induced a change of heart among the American people. Before vicious extremists seized the city of Mosul and began to cut off Western heads on social media, Americans doubted the merit of further military action in the Middle East. When they realised that IS threatened them directly, they began to demand protection. Mr Obama therefore has a chance not just to strike a blow for order in the Middle East, but also to give the declinists pause.
Save me from the brown beheaders who are headed our way!
To each his own, I suppose. I’ll grant you that it largely depends on the author in question.
Note: Your post is the one directly below mine…well, if I click the little arrow at least hehe
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This ECONOMIST article is a clever graphic in search of a story.
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The end game is clear this time, the eradication of ISIS. Doing so will not leave a vacuum or nation adrift like the toppling of Saddam did. Sadly we can probably expect to see new organizations quite similar to ISIS spring up until young Arab males have reasons to live. The powers that be in that part of the world are pretty good at deflecting hate towards the west while they drive around in their Rolls Royces.
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I read only three magazines regularly, The Economist, Rolling Stone and National Geographic. The mix has worked pretty well for me.
Bah!
Have you read the article? It speaks very well of Obama.