Discussion: The Crucial Question Reagan And LBJ Got Right—And Trump Gets Wrong

Discussion for article #241397

tRump did not get this wrong. It was a stupid law enacted by a bunch of losers. His reforms will be yuuuuuuuuuuuugely successful, classy. You’ll see.


Reagan opened his 1980 presidential campaign (where he trounced Jimmy Carter) by going to Philadelphia MS to talk about states’ rights. Three civil rights workers were killed in that town in1964 by the KKK, and. That’s who he was.


“Instead, the 1965 Act instituted a national origins-neutral selection system by which each nation in the Eastern hemisphere was given a 20,000 per country limit”

Good deal for Brunei and Nauru, not so good for China and India…

When the pope visited, I didn’t see him being concerned with giving compassion to US Citizens who are poor, uneducated, who have lost their jobs to Illegal Aliens. This effect was warned about in 1965:


“In light of our 5 percent unemployment rate, our worries over the so called population explosion, and our menacingly mounting welfare costs, are we prepared to embrace so great a horde of the world’s unfortunates? At the very least, the hidden mathematics of the bill should be made clear to the public so that they may tell their Congressmen how they feel about providing jobs, schools, homes, security against want, citizen education, and a brotherly welcome… for an indeterminately enormous number of aliens from underprivileged lands.” “We should remember that people accustomed to such marginal existence in their own land will tend to live fully here, to hoard our bounteous minimum wages and our humanitarian welfare handouts…lower our wage and living standards, disrupt our cultural patterns.” Myra C. Hacker, Vice President of the New Jersey Coalition of Patriotic Societies, on the 1965 Hart Celler Act

“Whatever may be our benevolent intent toward many people, the bill fails to give due consideration to the economic needs, the cultural traditions, and the public sentiment of the citizens of the United States.” Myra C. Hacker, on the 1965 Hart Celler Act

Also, isn’t it interesting that the catholic church is one of the largest recipient of financial “donations” in the world? If the pope is so concerned for these migrants, then why doesn’t he exhort those countries (including his native Argentina) to take care of their citizens in need?

Catholic Church collects $1.6 billion in U.S. contracts, grants since 2012

“Not to be lost in the pomp and circumstance of Pope Francis’ first visit to Washington is the reality that the Catholic Church he oversees has become one of the largest recipients of federal largesse in America.”


Trump outlines ways to fund his points: stop sending funds to Mexico, a tariff on trade, a tax on money transfers, etc. The USA can find ways to get this done. Not mentioned what Illegal Aliens cost us now and will cost us in the future:

What if 20 Million Illegal Aliens “Just Departed”

Um, A LOT would happen!

The Liberal Case AGAINST Illegal Immigration:


This is the Progressive Case AGAINST Illegal Immigration:

The Conscience Of A Liberal–Paul Krugman

"First, the benefits of immigration to the population already here are small.
" But as Mr. Hanson explains in his paper, reasonable calculations suggest that we’re talking about very small numbers, perhaps as little as 0.1 percent of GDP.

"My second negative point is that immigration reduces the wages of domestic workers who compete with immigrants. That’s just supply and demand…

"Finally, the fiscal burden of low-wage immigrants is also pretty clear. "

Report: Obama’s Book Says Illegals Can Hurt Americans

Didn’t anyone in the Hispanic media read Obama’s book? Or listen to when he speaks?

Barack Obama in his own words from “The Audacity of Hope”

  • Illegal Immigration hurts Black Americans and Blue Collared Workers

Video Not Working? I wonder why?!? Here’s an Audio Link:

Here’s a list of recent past of Hillary’s hostilities towards Illegal Aliens:

Hypocrite Harry Reid in 1993: “No Sane Country” Would Permit Birthright Citizenship

lways nice to read something positive about LBJ. Too bad Raygun was solidly against the CRA of 1965 and other progressive legislation.

When immigration comes up in presidential debates, perhaps it should be prefaced by accurate historical context into which the candidate places his ideas.