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managing a breastaurant
Excellent story with only about a billion potential sidebars. A shame Vonnegut didnât live to see breastaurants.
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Breastaurant ? Is that âHootersâ ?
If an adult wants to make money by using their sexuality why shouldnât they do so. The fact that they will almost certainly regret doing so later in life should be a reason for counseling/education about some of the realities of life, but not a reason for laws forbidding them from doing this. After all, a large percentage of movies and advertisements already use sexuality to sell their product.
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If, as she states, she makes $900.00 in 5 hours then I would say thatâs not âamateurâ porn. Sure sounds pro to me.
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Sex work of all sorts tends to be something that attracts people with few resoruces. Itâs a Plan B occupation like Real Estate except all you need is a webcam these days and you donât need a licensee. In wealthy countries, the workers tend to be immigrants as has been the case in Europe for a long time. In the US, the tend to be a broad cross-section of people whoa renât middle class, plus a few better off people who do it as a lark. Theyâre not representative of people with limited resourcesâyou need a certain kind of acting skill and sex drive, but it certainly reflects the lack of options fo0r a lot of people.
I know absolutely NOTHING about online pornography, but I hear that the vast majority âamateurâ porn is done by paid actors. They might not be producing DVDs or getting AVN awards (whatever an âAVN awardâ is because surely I know NOTHING about them), but theyâre not amateurs. These girls have a talent scout/agent, FFS. True amateur porn is kinda hard to find. So I hear.
No. Redneck Heaven makes Hooters look like a kidsâ cafeteria.
How many porn stars have moved into legit theater? My understanding is not many beyond Don Johnson, and those few have worked hard to remove all traces of their earlier work. The $900 she makes for a few hours work might seem like a good deal, but in the long run she will discover her porn exposure limits other career opportunities. It is sort of like a tattoo at 18. Sounds like a good idea at the time, but when you are 40 you wonder how you can get rid of the damn thing.
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Well done. You clearly outline the problem of diminishing American opportunities intersecting sexism and classism.
My heart goes out to all young Americans , especially young women , who face these problems.
Did anyone mention forbidding anyone from doing anything? Mustâve missed it.
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The movie makes that clear early on. (It was too depressing for me to watch more than a few minutes, so I know it was early on.)
Itâs on Netflix, if you want to check it out. (Actually, itâs on Netflix whether you want to check it out or not.)
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Once you take money to do something, no matter what is, you are no longer an amateur.
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America has plenty of opportunities for women besides waitress and porn. If these chicks got internet to live cam, they got internet to go on Udemy or YouTube and learn a skillset like programming, digital editing, web development, etc that can be sold over the web and work from home.
If they choose the easy path thatâs up to them, but, no one is forcing it upon them. If you want to find a sugar daddy, pop out a buncha kids and live pay check to pay check, thatâs on you.
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Most of Tracy Lordsâ films have been suppressed because she was underage, but I donât think she hid her past when she went into B movies. And Sasha Grey seems to be open about it. So Iâm not sure thatâs as true as it once was.
Several tiers now; at least:
- Professionals under contract with major studios that make DVDs and âfeature filmsâ with scripts (but not only those). Theyâre the focus of the adult industry awards that show occasionally on late-night pay cable.
- The constantly replenishing supply of still or recently teenagers that take ad-hoc jobs at one of the hundreds or thousands of web sites, catering to every niche. The producers are often the other half of the talent, so theyâre the professionals, performing with amateurs.
- Those that produce their own websites. I guess theyâd be considered pros.
- True amateurs that films themselves and upload it, without expecting to make money directly.
This documentary is about the young women in that second tier. They burn out in a few months, maybe a bit longer. A few will move up or down a tier.
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Sasha made her transition by leveraging it in Entourage actually
The documentary, which is excellent, talks about how the âgirlsâ participating in this flavor of porn typically have a shelf life of 3-6 months before theyâre retired. The one old hand in the show is 23 and has been doing it for 2 years, but sheâs testifably the exception.
Our economy depends on unemployment to maintain a pool of job seekers large enough to keep wage inflation down, and weâve been damn successful as a country in doing so. These young people take their future and bodies into hand when they have to make the choices between a right now and their future, and our society encourages it all.
As a young working class man I sacrificed my body performing heavy labor, which paid better than retail or customer service, and my employers were only too happy to have me. Thankfully my travails incentivized college and higher education, but I donât have the societal shame in my life now thatâs going to be put on the young women basically doing the same thing, but through their own avenue.
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"Is this really the only two ends of the financial spectrum young women can expect? "
False dichotomy/false choice activism is false. Story at 11.
Implicit in the question and the article, is the recognition that this is objectifying, etc., and one can almost read the internal tug-of-war going on in the authorâs headâŚis it liberating or is it oppressive? Which argument suits the end-game more and how do I make it? Do I just hint at both and avoid a conclusion or taking a position?
The fact is this: this is a microcosmic example of what Amurikaâs descent into plutocracy is doing to young people REGARDLESS OF GENDER. Conveniently, it presents me with the perfect analogy to call it all a âliteral fuckingâ and, whether people want to accept it or not, itâs giving young men pretty much an equal fucking at this pointâŚbent over the proverbial fence and treated like the Koch brotherâs favorite goatâŚand nobody wants to see us wagging our average dicks around under our average puffy beer bellies, no matter how fluffed, in amateur intertubez porn (not to mention pay us the equivalent of $360,000/year for it, no less), so at at least these ladies have that.
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Breastaraunt! Now THEREâs and idea we can work with!!