Discussion: The 3 Big Fights Shaping Up In The Rubio-Cruz Rivalry

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Castro v. Batista 2.0

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The unelectable in pursuit of the unspeakable.

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Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), at a GOP 2016 debate last month, called the credit “a welfare transfer payment.”

Who?

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Imagine! In 2 short months, we get to start seeing which turds begin floating towards the top of the septic tank.

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Tonight’s Under-Card! Rank Amateur Cage Match!

More like Batista versus Batista. I’m cruzing with the unelectable Batista.

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And neither one will get enough of the Puerto Rican vote to win Florida in the general, or a better part of the non-Cuban Hispanic vote than any other Republican.

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I can’t figure the impact of this on the REPUBLICAN hispanic vote because that’s like these 2 dudes and a few others in the House. Cruz is taking a position the Base understands and loves, but if Rubio joins him it dooms his chances in the general should he win the nomination. I’m getting the impression Cruz doesn’t so much want to win the nomination as wound Rubio on this so grievously that if and when Rubio loses in the general, Cruz can bask in the nyah nyah We should have gone with the “most conservative” i.e. most representative of the Base ‘because’ we lost the general. That makes no sense but by the time 2020 rolls around, Cruz will have taken out Rubio for that cycle - as a “loser” - and gain the My Turn position, whereupon he’ll just pivot in the general to more or less the position he’s claiming Rubio’s stuck with.

No wonder his fellow GOP Senators despise Cruz: he makes these repeated technical invocations of the Gipper’s rule of Thou shalt not trash fellow Republicans, but then he turns right around to MASSIVELY trash Rubio, not just in the nomination contest, but his entire career arc.

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If we’d only elected The Newt, we’d have Moonbase Callista to send these mo-fo’ Republican creatures to today. In any case, why didn’t my president send these two Cubans back to Cuba as part of the new deal? Oops!
Thanks Obama!

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That ol’ chestnut “Two Heads Are Better Than One” is astoundingly incorrect in this case. But Mark Twain’s remark that all you need in life are ignorance and confidence to be successful is perfectly suited for both.

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Neither Cruz nor Rubio have accomplished anything in their first terms as Senators. Rubio doesn’t show up, Cruz just wants to shut down government. Their “trickle down” policies will only help the rich and do nothing for ordinary Americans who are trying to make a living and support their families. I doubt that the Canadian Cuban Cruz even qualifies for the presidency. Where is his mother’s birth certificate? Is there even one Republican candidate who is for American. Oh, there’s Trump, the neo fascist who will do all on his own without the help of Congress. We have come to a sad state in our beloved nation when people like this want to be POTUS.

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Easy to dismiss these two guys.

Imagine either of them as President in October 1962.

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Isn’t interesting how the conversation starts at, which rookie, unaccomplished, loyal to a communist nation candidate is more worthy, rather than are they serious?

These guys have major issues, issues that the Republicans ripped the nation apart over in just the last decade but now have gone full zombie about. They see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil but inside, past the Faux heart, they know evil because of their training and gut instincts.

This arguing is by two Cubans in their first term as Senator that can’t name a post office without poll testing and waffles. Immigrants that hate immigrants, now that their in anyways, which means they hate their own kind, how comforting that must be to all the non-white, non-native, non-hateful folk.

I guess in conservative-we don’t make no stinking sense nor need it land, this is an interesting battle between youth and ferocity. To the rest of, this is a slap fight between a Faux Patriot and a an undecided Patriot that both lack patriotism beyond the word itself and that will end with the same whimper that it began with.
It’s a whimper off.

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This is like watching a fight to the death between a rat and a snake. My money’s on the snake from Canada.

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Hell, criticize the sugar subsidy and you just lost most of Florida and a good part of Louisiana.

@kwoodgr: > We have come to a sad state in our beloved nation when people like this want to be POTUS.

We’ve come to a sad state in our beloved nation when people like this - or even worse - stand a good chance of becoming one party’s candidate for the Presidential election.

@whit: the biggest problem I see with that solution is that Dems just aren’t capable of pulling out these total trash topics. We have lots of failures, but this kind of approach is naturally Republican and we’d just look plain bad at it.

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Whichever of these men wins the nomination - and the odds are high that one or the other will - we have to be ready to go there in opposing them in a way that will drive down Republican turnout: They are Cubans! (Say nothing about their being Hispanic; lean on “Cuban,” whom other Hispanics tend to despise.) They are the children of refugees and cannot be counted on not to have a secret leaning to helping more refugees. Their family’s values are not really American values (same as the attacks on Obama on this one). Can they prove no secret ties to the Castros? How about to the Cuban mafia that Castro threw out?

We need to be ready to get ugly. We need to destroy these fuckers - both of them proto-fascists - in terms that will make Cubans unelectable by white Republicans in America. This is too important an election to worry about our nice liberal sensibilities. If either of these jerks is elected, America is aborted.

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This is a fight tailor made for Cruz. Rubio isn’t going to out-conservative Cruz. Few can, and most wouldn’t be foolish enough to try. By even engaging Cruz Rubio is setting himself up to become the next establishment candidate to be taken out by the Crazy Caucus. At the next debate, it won’t just be weak Jeb! challenging him, Cruz will be coming after him too and Cruz is a much tougher opponent.

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One is a Cuban Canadian who didn’t renounce his foreign citizenship until last year when he decided to run for president. The other is an anchor baby.

They are both Republican frauds and have ties to Castro’s Cuba. Hispanics with Mexican or Central American ties won’t claim them and neither will real, red-blooded Dixiecrats.

I’m glad they found the Republican Party and are now fighting over its nomination. Sort of showcases all the problems the GOP has with immigration and honesty.

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I don’t see where Rubio wins any primaries. Not the first 3 and not Florida. I just don’t see him catching fire anywhere in time to get traction and momentum.

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Yo…I really LIKE that.

It also happens to be true. The man doesn’t have what it takes. Maybe in another country (Like the North Pole), but not here.

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