Discussion: Texas Guv Signs Bill Allowing Police To Ask About Immigration Status

The legislation, which is set to take effect Sept. 1, also includes an amendment that allows police officers to ask someone about their immigration status when they are detained.

I see this provision moving toward a head-on collision with this:

US Constitution, Amendment V

No person … shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself …

I wonder which is going to come off worse.

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A reply, perhaps. Definitely not a “rise.”

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It’s Monday. No coffee yet. Could someone explain why Texas is demanding that their law enforcement officers aid Federal law enforcement to detain immigrants. I thought Texas was all about rough and rugged squealing about States Rights and flipping the bird at Federal law? Now Texas officers can face prosecution for not bowing down before The Man! I’m so confused!

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@asknow

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Greggie is throwing something to the outer-suburb fright wing base. This bill is also opposed by all the farmers and ranchers who depend on migrant workers, as well as opposed by people living in the cities who want to keep their maids and yardmen.

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It has to be somewhat of a conundrum for Texas ranchers and farmers though.

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Pennsylvania too. Agriculture, construction, landscaping, all kinds of businesses that need flexible work forces. The undocumented are here for a reason—it works for everyone. These laws and crackdowns—the feds have done raids right here in the blue burbs, like four blocks from my house and we’re pissed about it—are the consequence of a unique Presidential campaign run almost entirely without any actual ideas that would benefit ordinary people. Prejudice and fantasy was behind 95 percent of it. So here we are.

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One sector of undoc. employment that’s growing is caring for the elderly.

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Jeez lighten up a bit there sport. It was quite clearly a joke. BTW my ancestors landed on these shores in 1622. How about yours?

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The police departments all know that this will costs them tens of millions of dollars in judgements for racial profiling. Whee.

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OT: Sally Yates will be dismissed as a Democratic operative who manipulated the intelligence to attack Trump with the Flynn warning. She was setting the president up, with interpretive data that the GOP have now interpreted otherwise. They will challenge the conclusions she made on Flynn by deconstructing the basis for her determination on how vulnerable Flynn was to blackmail.

GOP are not going to receive Yates’s testimony as they should, they are going to challenge her. I hope this is not true. They have also decided that the buck stops with Don McGahn, WH counsel. If he goes, no bigs. Lawyers like that are a dime a dozen in DC.

Also something to look for is Pence. Lately, I have not heard any rumors about Pence being implicated as the head of the transition team. So far, the reports about Yates’s testimony stop with McGahn being the most senior person to be briefed by Yates about Flynn. But Pence had to know, as the head of transition, the rumors are that Yates could have told the VP. If those rumors are true then they should be confirmed today. Look for that wrinkle.

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You know what? They SHOULD just secede. They clearly don’t give a FK about the Constitution of this country or any of the laws and think they are ‘cowboys’. Then go. Just fking go.

Makes sense, my mom needed rehab a few times and that was very much the case.

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My husband is Latin and a legal immigrant. I really wanted to visit the Austin music scene, and friends who live nearby. Now that’s out.

God damn it. This is creeping authoritarianism.

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Austin cops won’t bother you.

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Deported man’s wife and friends rethink voting for Trump

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If you read the comments there, you will see why Trump triumphed in this country.

Completely unsympathetic. Pissed that CBS is promoting this story. “The law is the law.” Biblical anger at Anderson Cooper’s homosexuality. Raising the idea that illegal immigrants add to the rate of rape in this country.

And so on and so on and so on. Hopeless.

We’re in a bubble here, folks.

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I think that Texans should ask the police officers for their papers first, just in case they are ISIS members, or drug pushers with a badge…

Austin cops won’t bother you.

They will when this legislation is REQUIRING them to bother you, on pain of being in trouble themselves if they don’t!