Discussion for article #228326
SighâŚRepublicans canât help but mangle Civics, can they? Nazis relied very heavily on religion- specifically Christianity- in order to rally the German people. Secularism is not a problem. Most Secularists would be more than willing to let people believe what they want- so long as it is not used to lie, bear false witness, or distort science, history, academia and learning.
Most of what people like Perry consider Christianity is not what God said at all, though. In fact, the Bible says that âlife begins when blood flowsâ, which has long been interpreted as either when the woman gives birth or when the fetusâ movements are first felt. This is called The Quickening. Additionally, the Bible says nothing about homosexuality. Instead, the piece that they interpret to be about homosexuality is actually an admonition to men not to treat other men as subservient as they would treat a woman.
The idea that life begins at conception came into being in roughly the 13th Century when the Pope at the time bought into the idea that men carry around little copies of all human beings which he implants inside a womanâs womb, and that homonculus then grows in the womanâs womb and she contributes nothing but her âfertile fieldâ to the process of procreation.
The idea that the story of Sodom and Gomorrah was about homosexuality did not come about into around the 10th Century from what Iâve been able to find. In fact, the early Church was welcoming to lesbians and gays, and even conducted many marriage ceremonies.
I have long felt pity for those Christians who have such a small God. After all, their God is so tiny that he can only create a world from whole cloth and sustain it for about 4000 years.
And yet⌠despite all common sense and need for good governance⌠these yahoos are about to take over the Senate and retain the house. Jesus H. Christ.
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
â(Donât Worry) If Thereâs A Hell Below Weâre All Goâ
âSisters, brothers and the whities
Blacks and the crackers
Police and their backers
Theyâre all political actorsâ
Curtis Mayfield
Sigh. Another person who wants the authority to make laws that directly impact my life, while believing that Iâm not a ârealâ citizen since I subscribe to no religious belief.
Heâs essentially lamenting the existence of the Constitution preventing a state run religion. And is it me, or do these nutjob fundamentalist fuckers always have the same speech patterns? Itâs like right out of the special article on TPM about the âcharismaticâ movement. Idiot babbling about the âfinal daysâ and âend timesâ and God visiting his wrath on the nation for us having the audacity to allow women to choose what they do with their bodies.
Letâs reduce what he said:
âLaws allowing you to choose your religion or whether to even be religious at all in the first place are the same as lining up 10,000 Jews and shooting them in the throat.â
Fuck this guy and the Bible heâs abusing.
Oh, the white folks hate the black folks
And the black folks hate the white folks
To hate all but the right folks
Is an old established rule
But during National Brotherhood Week
Lena Horne and Sheriff Clark
Are dancing cheek to cheek
Itâs fun to eulogize
The people you despise
As long as you donât let 'em in your school
Oh, the Protestants hate the Catholics
And the Catholics hate the Protestants
And the Hindus hate the Moslems
And everybody hates the Jews
-Tom Lehrer
SeCULArists = HITLER!!111ONE!!11!!!
oOPS. diDNâT meAN TO enD tHE thREAD.
eustace, I think the cream is rising to the top of this bag of hammers
Take your god and shove it.
If all sex were same-sex, wouldnât that solve the abortion problem? Maybe Mr. Perry should focus on unprotected, heterosexual sex instead.
Of course, after those precious souls are born - screw it, Iâm not paying taxes to feed the little brats.
Ummm . . . . . ISIS has plenty of religion in their government. Youâre welcome to try them on for size. Oh, thatâs right. This has nothing to do with religion. Is has to do with power and authority.
So, on Foreign Policy issue, I assume he would support ISIL as a state? Seems to be in line with all the statements heâs made.
How is this any different from the Taliban?
Jeebus on a Triscuit. Just as we are getting rid of one Perry, another pops up.
Perhaps if Gentile demagogues educated themselves a bit about abortion views within Judaism before flogging the Shoah for anti-choice mileage, there might be less irony in the world.
Just a thought.
Question for Perry: If your God is omnipotent as you claim, why didnât he stop the Supreme Court justices from voting in Roe? An omnipotent God should have been able to change at least one mind.