Discussion: Teen Gets Probation For Beating, Yelling Slurs At Sikh Man In Hate Crime

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Probation for punching a cop and breaking a man’s cheek?

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Ummm… ok so that seems unfair. I can understand not wanting a kid to have a felony on their record but prosecutes don’t really go down that road much in minority communities.

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Clearly not a black teenager.

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Who is this “teen”? He punched a Cop in the face and walked? Better yet…who is this “teens” daddy?

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equal justice under the law

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5 to 10 in the electric chair would have been more appropriate. No doubt the young lad can be depended on to beat, rob, rape and kill a few more people before the justice system makes him actually suffer for any crimes.

From reading some articles, I suspect that the victim and the Sikh Coalition pushed the prosecution in the direction of accepting probation.

This Chicago Tribune article on the plea was what led me in that direction. YMMV.

Edited to add this:
Here’s another news item, on the sentencing this time, that gives me the same sense that the victim and the Sikh Coalition gave the okay to prosecutors to drop the most serious charges.

“The importance of obtaining a hate crime conviction is not about pushing for a harsher penalty but about ensuring that our government and the American public acknowledge the problem of hate and addressing that hate,” said Harsimran Kaur, the faith group’s leader. “Charging him, the guilty plea and sentencing him is an important step in addressing this epidemic of hate crimes.”

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Anything about a mental health eval? Definite anger issues as well if still going at it when the cop shows up.

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“[T]he teen yelled racial slurs at the victim…climbed from his vehicle and punched Mukker with enough force to break his cheek.”

Out canvassing for the DuPage chapter of Teens For Trump I take it?

Agreed, some punishment… he still gets to:
. drink,
. party,
. be an asshole,
. whine how unfair he was treated,
. …

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Gee, I wonder if he’s white? Or his family is rich or well-connected?

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When TF are we going to start jailing … JAILING… violent people and stop jailing non-violent drug offenders?? It’s absolute insanity. If this had been a black kid beating a white Christian man, the kid would have gotten fifteen years for aggravated assault and attempted murder.

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Teens for Trump has restricted membership to males ever since an embarrassing moment when the candidate misunderstood the purpose of the group.

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I’d expect both… in HS my oldest was in a fight, he got suspended the other kid nada…

When I asked about it, I was told confidentially prevent the Admin from answering, I had asked at a school board meeting during the open mike portion; I asked was it because the other boy came from a politically connected family, from money, etc, etc. School board president finally relented when other people in the audience started raising voices and questions The reason given, they did not want to put a black mark on the student’s record a week before graduation that could affect his college applications. That answer happened to be printed in the local weekly’s coverage of the meeting. The college that he had applied and accepted a week later rescinded his acceptance letter. Sometimes rich and well connected does not help, in this beating case I’m sure it did.

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This is the very DEFINITION of “White Privilege”.

If a young black man had chased and then beaten a White Man, then punched a Cop who came to his home to arrest him, he would be dead already, and posthumously charged with “Resisting Arrest”.

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I thought so until I read the rest of the sentencing, assuming what one wants is to redirect this kid away from his present kind of thinking/acting. $5,000 is a decent token restitution, but more importantly some real time spent working in the Sikh community just might make these people “real” to him instead of just “other anonymous”. So just maybe the lesson might stick. I’d have liked a bit longer community time though. And as the victim said, the conviction as a “hate crime” matters too.

OTOH a kid who’d actually tackle the cop sent to arrest him sounds pretty basically violent, though maybe his violence is drugs talking.

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Well, actually his two year probation probably prohibits the drinking and that rather limits the partying. That was how the Texas kid got nailed breaking his probation, and sent back to jail.

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I read someplace that over 98% of all crimes get plea deals, I guess that there are 1-not enough judges, or 2 not enough court rooms or 3 not enough prosecutors or 4 the Illinois lege STILL doesn’t have a budget, thus, no judges or court rooms

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That plus just maybe some are beginning to wake up to the possibility that imprisonment is all too often counterproductive instead of helpful to the society.

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