Discussion for article #241966
I donĀ“t know, obviously, the whole story here, but generally I think that taking a car should not result in a summarily executed death sentence.
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But he moved! The officer had no choice but to shoot him if he moved his hands. What possible other alternative was there?
Nope, sounds to me like the officer acted in accordance with his training and that means everything that happened was A-OK and 100% kosher.
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A worker at the car wash said Tuesday that employees were not allowed to talk about the shooting. A cashier at the adjacent gas station also declined to talk.
Well thatās not even a little bit sinister.
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Yea really. If the cop had not had a gun probably all that would have happened was the guyās car would have been driven off a ways and abandoned, the kid would have been caught and maybe rehabilitated, and the car would have been a little worse for wear or if more the guyās insurance would have fixed it. Instead we have another situation where someoneās dead and events are questionable.
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Wonder how long it will take for the unnamed officerās toxicology results to be complete?
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And once again, it was a huge mistake to have a gun; as it usually is. The only difference it makes that he was a cop is that his cop buddies are more likely to protect him, as if thatās how justice is supposed to work. Because if he was just another jackass with a gun, heād likely be charged with a crime; especially if he made the blunder of being the wrong skin color.
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Rehabilitated? Where does that occur in todayās justice system? Certainly not in prison where bit crooks learn how to be better crooks.
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More of thisā¦canāt get enoughā¦itās what we live for and proves our freedumb is intact:
āPut your hands up!!!ā
āOK ok Iām putting my hands up!!!ā
BLAM!!!
āHe made a sudden move with his hands!!!ā
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āSurveillance video from the car wash showed the officer and Brown struggled briefly before a shot was fired.ā
Followed by
"Police declined to release a copy of the incident report or the surveillance video, "
SO LET ME HELP YOU HERE:
āSurveillance video from the car wash showed the officer and Brown struggled briefly before a shot was fired.ā
No, it didnāt. Show me the tape or thatās the default position. Why you would even consider writing that fucking sentence while the cops withhold the video is beyond me.
/pisses on 4th estateās gravestone
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Based solely on what we are being presented in the story (note, videocams have recently shown us how often the story is falsified) I canāt fault the officer here. The execution was a natural consequence of having such a heavily armed society, where every minor incident can easily escalate into a fatal situation.
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And 4th Amendment.
Couldnāt he have shot out the tire? The well regulated militia strikes againā¦
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Especially when a cop is involved. Why not let the dude drive off? I mean, is it that difficult to track a cop car?
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I grew up in the 70ās, graduated HS in the late 80ās. There was crime then as thereās always been. I havenāt looked to see if there was more or less of it then vs. now but I do know that cops didnāt shoot so damned many people so damned often. Sure the internet makes all these things seem more instant and we hear more about them now than we ever did then. But I remember that the only time youād even think about a police officer shooting at anyone was if it were some kind of mafia or cartel bust or maybe at a bank robbery.
Now itās over nothing, or rather over everything. Minor situations escalate into shooting deaths by our countryās police. Itās horrifying and I wish I knew how we could stop it. Iām not sure of this particular officerās backstory but I really do think that when you mix our societyās reaction to 9-11 (fear) with our love of guns and then add in a police force that was packed full of returning vets (who we never treat and help to reintegrate into civilian life) that the results are what weāre seeing - a violently toxic cocktail of citizens being killed by our police officers both on & off duty. And yes, even an idiot kid taking a car is a citizen & does not deserve to die for it.
I donāt know. These stories are just so very disturbing and disheartening.
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There is NOTHING that makes this killing okay. I donāt care how high the kid was, or what he reached for. Let him drive off and then you can call it in. Youāll have your car back in 30 minutes and the kid in handcuffs. Not in a coffin.
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Increasingly when police shoot down a suspect, more often than not, the suspect was unarmed, even though the cop, or cops, insist otherwise. This story line has been repeated time & again across the US, āI feared for my life when the individual looked like s/he was reaching for a gun.ā
Cops have been fabricating stories for decades in attempts to convince the public that shootings were ājustifiableā homicides. The public had little reason to doubt what they said, with one exception of course, the Black Community. That was before smartphones were available with video capabilities.
Whether a Grand Jury indicts or not, the public can watch an incident as it occurred via You tube or social media. So even if a law officer/s are not tried in a court of law, they are still tried in the court of public opinion.
What was once considered a free āget-out-of-jailā card, metaphorically speaking, of course, is no longer an option available. But, I sure wouldnāt want to be the officer who receives a verdict āguilty as chargedā by a court of public opinion.
In other words, a prison is not always made of cement walls and bars; a prison by design in oneās mind is still a prison. Looking over your shoulder, never at peace is an unenviable existence.
As more and more people are awakening to the fact that African-Americans are gunned down by cops on a weekly, or daily, basis, a change in law enforcement policy is greatly needed. Unless we, the people, push our elected government officials at the local, state & national level nothing will be done.
A change in attitude will not happen overnight, but policy changes can take place fairly quickly.
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The story is a bit muddled, but it appears that the car in question was not a police vehicle but a personal vehicle that just happened to be owned by a cop. The screen grab at the top of the story is a little misleading. That is a Chesterfield, VA police vehicle, but not the vehicle in question.
A little joy ride attempt ends in murder.
This one obviously did escalate into a fatal situation. The one who escalated it was the policeman.
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No, because it was the tire of his own carā¦ Heād rather kill the teen than risk damaging his car.
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