Discussion: Ted Cruz Is Running For President

Yes, but you’re dealing with people who believe that Adam and Eve had vegetarian dinosaurs for neighbors in the Garden of Eden 5,000 years ago, that evolution is a Satanic fraud, and that tax cuts always pay for themselves.

he’ll kiss em’ all if it gets him elected…

maybe McCarthy was just a warning Ted was coming?

Ted’s got the loathing thing down pat.

I know, you meant “center of attention by design”, and that is exactly what I meant, he walks into a room and expects to be “better” than anyone already there. His obsession with status I think harkens back to proving he’s white, not some Mexican.

Let’s complete that statement. Cruz’s father wasn’t just Cuban. He fought along side of Castro.

"While Cruz has renounced his birthright to be a Canadian citizen, "

Actually, I believe there is some question about that, not that it really matters. He said he was going to do that, but I have not seen confirmation he actually did, and have seen the question raised by various sources yesterday.

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One parent is enough. And Canada automatically grants citizenship to everyone born there. Its true that US doesn’t recognize dual citizenship, but that’s more the exception for most countries than the rule. So from the US perspective, he is a US citizen. From the Canadian perspective, he is a dual citizen.

I am in the same boat on this; I was born in Canada while my father was stationed at a NATO base in Canada. I am a US citizen, but Canada also sees me as a dual citizen. Even a formal declaration of my US citizenship doesn’t invalidate my Canadian citizenship (Exception: The US does recognize dual citizenship for minors. I was considered one until I registered for the draft, which was taken to be a formal declaration of my US citizenship).

There is plenty to go after Cruz about, but the only reason to start down the birther path is to make fun of the actual birthers, not to actually become one.

Cruz, like Bush , is a 4-letter word

And then put the baby’s birth announcement in the paper in an attempt to ensure he could someday run for president in a country in which several states didn’t even recognize her marriage to a black man as legal.

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Nope, their response will be, “Well, Obama got away with it. Why can’t our side do it too?”

First one in, first one out…

You’re right. Sahil is in the camp that speaks the truth and uses facts. It’s pretty clear which camp are YOU in. The Faux News camp.

Well, at least we know which camp you are in; the Faux News camp.

Agreed. Reagan and Ahnold were also actually fairly good looking, known quantities, and both presented themselves as reasonable people. Yes, Reagan had made many insane comments in the past, but he hadn’t governed CA in such a manner, so he was given a bit of a pass. They also didn’t have to deal with social media. You could stay stupid shit, deny you ever said it, and unless it was recorded on audio or video tape, you could pretty much get away with it. That’s not the case anymore. And both Reagan and Ahnold ran positive campaigns. With Reagan, it was “Morning in America”. Does anyone think Cruz would dare suggest such a thing? I imagine his entire campaign will be about stopping the evils of socialism, overturning Obama’s EOs, fighting ISIS and Iran, and unwinding as much of the social safety net as possible. Other than the Republican base, is there really any American demographic hungry for those things?

His only claim to US Citizenship is through his purported Mother. I need to see the maternity testing.

Maybe just a written testimony from the midwife ?
Does he have a birh certficate (long form) at all ?

Except that the requirement isn’t ‘born in the United States’, but rather:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

Since Cruz is a citizen by birth, he’d be a natural born citizen.

WTF planet are you from?? Dude, before you embarrass yourself further, take a moment and read a few of my posts here.

Faux News camp indeed. LOL.

We already know what his campaign slogan is “The world is burning”. And apparently targeted at young children to really get the fear factor muscled up.

of course cruz is a citizen. the controversy is whether he is a natural born citizen, a constitutional requirement for a president.

irony since part of his message is to bring us back to the constitution which is under attack…

Hey! With a testimonial from a midwife how do I know it isn’t faked? I want the DNA sampling witnessd by people from each party and sent anonymously to a reputable lab without Koch connections.

Look, See! I can out birthter the Birthers. And furthermore I am correct, if she’s not his mother, he’s not a citizen. Doesn’t even matter if no one knew he got swapped at birth. If he was swapped at birth he’s at best some form of dreamer.

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