Discussion for article #234753
So Stewart, you’re suggesting that we don’t coordinate with Iran against ISIS?
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And children, this is the end result of the Iraq war where we installed Iran’s allies in charge of the country creating space for the rise of ISIL. It is exactly why foreign policy shouldn’t be left in the hands of talk radio hosts and self assured idiots like Dick Cheney and George W.Bush.
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Yeah, i don’t get it. And then we provide the OK and Intel to Saudi Arabia and others to pound Shiite rebels in Yemen. ISIS and Saudi Arabia = Sunnis. Iran and Iraqi militias = Shiite. What a clusterfuck of options and decisions.
Most of the time Stewart is one of the most insightful commentators out there (sad, I know). But when he is wrong, like here, man is he wrong.
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With nothing but bad options to consider, your recommended action on how to handle this situation would be ______________?
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There is such irony in the fact that Iran is now a regional hegemon by virtue of sitting back and moving a few chess pieces while the US and Israel created the power vacuum in the Mideast for them.
It’s not as if we didn’t predict this back in 2003 but the neocons and PNACers wanted their clean break:
Now realpolitik suggests that the path to stability leads through Tehran while Jerusalem is a roadblock to be cleared instead of the other way around.
I like it…
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Stewart uncharacteristically misses the point. America’s foreign policy has been blindly pro-Sunni. The real threats to America’s security come from the virulently toxic and violently evil form of Sunni islam called Wahabbism.
Terrorists groups like Al-Qaeda, Boko-Haram, ISIS, al-Shabab that kidnap, kill, maim and behead innocent men, women and children all practice the tenets of Wahabbism.
The main sponsors and intellectual mullah minds of Wahabbism are in Saudi Arabia, Qatar and UAE. The Saudis still publicly behead people in the public square in the name of the Prophet. The main imagery in the Saudi flag is the beheading sword.
The Saudi mullahs and tyrants did nothing about ISIS but decided to invade Yemen to attack the Shia.
In general, modern day Sunni society is more barbaric, tribalistic, primitive and terrorist-friendly than the comparatively more tolerant and civilized Shia societies.
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While I typically catch the TDs on its next day rerun, I’ve noticed a couple of times in the last 10 days that Stewart seems to have morphed into one of those “both sides do it” pundits, and erring on the right rather than the left… I gather I’m not the only one to decide he’s offbase of late. Why? Is he revealing his true colors ahead of his departure?
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We could just leave.
iran is not a threat to the united states. end of story.
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Are you kidding? The line, we’ve figured out how to fight a proxy war with ourselves, ranks right up there with “We had to destroy the village to save it.” It’s brilliant and not something you;re likely to hear from any of the talking heads. We’re trying to come to an important agreement with Iran, mostly to appease literally just a handful of American law makers, few of them Jews, and Israel, and we jump in to a conflict that has zero strategic importance to the U.S. that puts us once again at odds with Iran to support the fucking Saudis? Stupid.
We are wrong, wrong, wrong. We have no good choices at this point other than to fuck-off out of the region and let them have at it. Yes, we started the mess, but no one has the ability to put it to right until everyone involved wearies of the fighting.
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Warfare makes for some really strange bedfellas. Stalin, Churchill and FDR come to mind.
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Seems to me he’s suggesting that we don’t remain in the business of destabilizing regions until the point we’re in the clusterfuck bind of fighting on both sides of multiple conflicts until we’re left fighting essentially against ourselves.
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The Region is toxic. If we don’t leave soon, we will be the same waste as the rest of them.
Look at Russia. We impose economic sanctions on them for the Ukraine, and we cooperate with them in the talks with Iran and on nuclear arms reduction. International relations are often contradictory, even between the US and Canada (see XL pipeline). I don’t see what Stewart’s beef is here.
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I’d agree with him then, but I don’t think he makes that clear.
Before the US intervened (several times) allowing the radicals to take over, Persia was pretty civilized if not well on the road to a modern state. It’s sort of like what happened to the Republican Party. Once the crackpots and religious fanatics get involved it’s hard to find common ground.
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I believe he feels we are boxing ourselves in. Sometimes a clean break like we made with Vietnam is the best strategy. Let time and space heal the old wounds so something new can be established?
That would take courage and a very thick skin. Truman made a lot of hard decisions like that and paid for it dearly till long after he died when historians had the perspective to see the the long picture.
Considering the beating Obama had already taken before he was even elected, he might be the man for that assignment. I suggest that he do everything that is necessary to set this country back on a progressive, isolationist course and then retreat to Hawaii for a quiet retirement to wait for destiny to catch up with him.
We cannot allow ourselves to keep on getting involved in all these long-term foreign entanglements while neglecting our domestic infrastructure and general welfare of he middle class in the process.