âI think what this really does is it puts down a marker that theyâre going to be willing to pick up the phone and make phone calls and do everything they can to keep companies here and to keep American jobs here,â
Trump promised to punish companies that off-shore their manufacturing and American jobs, not be their ransom-bitch. He basically rolled over and licked their asshole when they threatened to shit on us.
âWeâre putting the right kind of people in place who know how to fight for American jobs,â
Paying ransom is not fighting. Telling Carrier that heâs gong to stand by his promise to punish them if they go through with it is fighting.
The takeaway here is Donny can be played for whatever you want, as long as you put something in the deal that strokes his ego.
It does not take unusually astute or even marginal insight to foresee that the consequence of rewarding certain bad behavior is to encourage the same behavior by others similarly situated. Welcome to the new norm for stupid Presidents, and he has not even been inaugurated yet.
When will we hear Trump questioned about when he is going to return his mfg jobs back to the USA. Every time he opens his mouth about keeping Carrier jobs in Indiana (after paying Carrierâs parent company what could easily described as a bribe paid for by taxpayers) the follow-up question/comment should be, âWhen are Trumps mfg jobs coming back to the USA?â
What I wouldnât give to hear someone in the media ask if this (and all behavior) is indicative of an administration just making things up as it goes along without any idea beyond the spin of the day.
Donald this is a BIGLY BAD DEAL!
It SUCKS! This is NOT a good example of governingâŚthis business model will not work in every city or rural areas in America!
It is clear you are out of your league, boy!
Every time the GOP talks about a Populist Plan they mean an Elite Plan
Good gawd, folks. Drumpf didnât have a damned thing to do with the Carrier bribe. It was all susPence, who, as VPOTUS-elect, is in charge of âall foreign and domestic policy.â
If only the media would report this bullshit as exactly what it is.
Rachel Maddow did.
I knowâŚ.I knowâŚâŚthe people who need to watch her donât.
WTF is a President doing injecting himself in a companyâs decisions about where to locate? Now that Carrier is partially remaining in Indiana will Trump object if he finds out another manufacturer that supplies Carrier is closing because Carrier has switched to a foreign supplier of that part? Are you in Trumpâs crosshairs because although choosing to stay in the U.S. your entire IT infrastructure, both hardware and software, is purchased from Japan? If you train your employees via teleconference with technicians in France will Trump bitch you arenât using training companies doing business here? Where the hell does it stop?
What will we all say and do when Trump crosses the line and actually advocates from the Oval Office that people boycott a company for getting sideways with him on some issue? Mark it down, thatâs next.
Hereâs the new system:
- Declare that youâre moving jobs out of the country.
- Accept concessions from taxpayers, via the Trump administration.
- Praise Trump effusively for âsaving the jobs.â
- Wait until some new shiny object appears in the news that distracts people.
- Move the jobs anyway.
- Rinse and repeat.
Nobody is interviewing the 1300 who got the carrier Corporate Axe⢠to get their POV on the Big Opaque Deal. I wonder why? Câmon sleuthy journalistsâitâs time for both sides to opine.
So basically holding the people of Indiana for ransom seemed to work.
And Iâm sure a whole lot of other corporations will suddenly decide that Mexico or China
looks great (even if they have no real notion of leaving) to get themselves a fat check or serious
tax cuts. Trump is paying them like we knew he would.
This is why we donât negotiate with terrorists⌠corporate or otherwiseâŚ
On the bright side, hopefully Donald will be so busy fielding phone calls from Corporate CEOs for the next 4 years, he wonât have time to get us into another warâŚ
Can you imagine a future labor negotiation where the company plays its trump card and states that if the company gives in to laborâs demands the cost will be too high and they will be âforcedâ to move the manufacturing off-shore. Labor then counterâs this argument by getting Trump involved and getting him to strong arm the company to take this option or the threat of this option off the table. Perhaps this a a good result but is this really a Presidential role? âŚto insert himself on the side of the workers in their negotiations with their employeer? Does this mean that if the company does eventually close the plant and move the operation off-shore that the company gets put on some type of âenemyâs listâ. I am pretty sure this practice is part of what got another republican impeached a few years ago.
Iâm going to repeat this again and again and again: THIS is the best that the worldâs best negotiator could do? United Technologies owns Carrier. UT has huge government contracts. ALL Trump had to do was call UT and say, you move the jobs, you lose any new contracts and all existing contracts are up for review. PERIOD.
But, no, âthe worldâs best negotiatorâ somehow convinced Carrier to âconcedeâ to receiving millions in tax breaks. WowâŚThanks, Trump
The âpay us or weâre leavingâ game has been played for decades. This is nothing new. There is a deal cut every day in every state to either coax a company into staying, or dissuade it from leaving. Tax abatements, property tax forgiveness, development grants, deferred or waived fees, expedited permit processes. This is all very commonplace. Anyone expressing surprise, or thinking Carrier was accorded unusual treatment hasnât been paying attention. $7 million over ten years is peanuts compared to the deals some companies get.
Toyota Picks Texas for 2,000-Employee, $800M Assembly Plant
by JACK LYNE, Site Selection Executive Editor of Interactive Publishing SAN ANTONIO, Texas â In the end, the Lone Star market was the linchpin factor in Toyota's (www.toyota.com) decision to select San Antonio, Texas, (www.sanantonio.gov/edd) for its highly coveted 2,000-employee, US$800-million vehicle assembly plant.
"With the announcement of this plant, we're going to have the capacity of 1.65 million vehicles a year [in North America], and that's a tremendous growth," Toyota Motor Manufacturing North America Senior Vice President Dennis Cuneo said at the project announcement, held at the Westin hotel along San Antonio's Riverwalk. "We're counting on this plant, and we're counting on Texans to buy our products."
State Training Funding Key,
But $34 Million Left on Table
State funding for worker training was the other key incentive, Cuneo added. Texas is providing $27 million to train the plant's 2,000 fulltime workers.
Other parts of the state/city/county incentive package, officials explained, included:
⢠$47 million in phased-in taxes and waived fees;
⢠$15 million for site utility infrastructure;
⢠$14 million for land;
⢠$10 million for site preparation; and
⢠$3 million for a city-provided job-training center.
http://siteselection.com/ssinsider/bbdeal/bd030210.htm
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***$7 million to keep Carrier in Indiana? Peanuts.***if this was such a great idea and Mike Pence has been the governor of Indiana the entire time this was going on, why didnât he reach out to Carrier and bribe, er, convince them to stay? How about tax disincentives instead of incentives. I am really tired of corporate welfare masquerading as assisting the âjobâ but i suppose i should get used to my taxes going to companies to whom I would otherwise never give my money.
That should be âjob creatorsâ