Discussion: Spicer: 'Impossible' To Know Health Bill Cost For Pre-Existing Condition Coverage

I am banging my head against my desk. I truly and completely hate these lying little mofos after all their whining and sniveling for the last eight years and now…this. Lord.

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saying it was “impossible” to know the cost to cover affected individuals.

He’s right. When you don’t use things like ‘logic’ and ‘actuarial information’. I mean, it’s hard.

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“Deefeecult for you, easy for me”

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OT: Did not know this.

https://twitter.com/politico/status/859847352936538113


Politico: How New York Can Release Trump’s Tax Returns
The president’s home state has the power to do it. Does it have the political will?

The search for Donald Trump’s tax returns finally may have struck gold—in Albany.

And if New York wants to publish Trump’s state tax returns, it can.

A lot can be inferred from the state return.

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Earlier on Wednesday, the White House budget director projected a vote on health care could occur as early as Saturday.

Except Congress leaves for a week long break on Friday. Not sure how that’s going to work.

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“There are so many variables that are unknown that to make an analysis of that level of precision seems almost impossible.” - Sean Spicer

“Reports that say that something hasn’t happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don’t know we don’t know.” - Donald Rumsfeld

And then there are the things this administration seems not to know - including the fact that it is actually possible for things to be known.

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(Sings)
It’s impossible
Ask the stars to leave the sky
it’s just impossible
It’s impossible
Ask Sean Spicer not to lie
It’s just impossible…
apologies to Armando Manzanero(music) and Sid Wayne(lyrics)

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I feel ya. This is exhausting. How they can look into the camera and lie with such ease should be a real source of embarrassment and shame…yet, this is the fucking world we live in now.

“We project that if states return to pre-ACA high-risk pools in 2019, as proposed, high-risk pool premiums for people with pre-existing conditions could be as high as $25,700 annually.”

And that doesn’t include the thousands in dollars for pharmaceutical drugs annually to treat various conditions or keep people alive.

Its not impossible to know health bill costs…however it is so long as they ram this shit through for a vote without waiting for it to be scored and properly assessed by the many interested parties that will be subject to its conditions…including most importantly, the consumers of healthcare services.

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Way OT—but this should be a top story here:

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Here. Let me do that for you:

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Another exec order that will come grinding to an immediate halt the second the courts get hold of it. I mean, I half expect a judge to rule the second Trump is done signing it.

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This is a smoke screen.

It’s not about pre-existing conditions. This isn’t a healthcare bill. It’s a tax cut bill for the wealthy.

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Now that they’ve got Gorsuch in place, all those constitutional issues regarding the separation of Church and State will be treated like a fad rather than one enshrined in law. That’s what worries me. Hobby Lobby was only the beginning.

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Under the Republican tax-cut orgy to billionaires laughably disguised as the “American Health Care Act”…

  • Annual premiums for people with pre-existing conditions: $25,700.

  • Minimum cost of high-risk pools at the state level: $8 billion.

  • The GOP beaten like a rug in 2018 for throwing 24 million Americans under the bus: Priceless.

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Anyone know if Orwell was an “I told you so” sort of guy?

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What we need is a Women’s March with the same massive turnout and issues being expressed around a week before the 2018 elections. If that doesn’t raise the consciousness of the electorate that we are being betrayed by our own government, and encourage people to get out to the polls well within the period where real change can be expected in our legislature, nothing will.

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This reminds me of the climate deniers. Something is impossible to know, hence they know in detail that it will be nothing like the best available fact-based analyses. And in particular it couldn’t possibly be worse.

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Yet another example of what one might call the Ignorance Parity Postulate at work, i.e, the theory, espoused by Trump, Bannon, et al, that they are not only permitted, but perhaps benefited by, projecting a level of ignorance equal to the level of ignorance running amok in their target audience/voting bloc.

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Kennedy won’t go along with that.

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