Discussion for article #227312
I always wonder about these clowns who declare that they don’t “recognize” the authority of the government. Do they wise up on the first day in prison, or does it take longer for the light to dawn on them?
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Alt headline:
False Liens Dog Due
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You’ve been into the cooking sherry again, haven’t you.
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“Sovereign citizen” - Republican too embarrassed to acknowledge.
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Is the problem one of nature or nurture? Are 'they" born ‘that’ way or do their parents fuck them up?
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My bet is that he sees himself as a super patriotic martyr while everyone else sees him as a super pathetic loser. I don’t suppose he’ll get much alone time now. Just remember the old prison joke.
“Where’s the soap?”
“Sure does”
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In most cases both, they were born that way and their father/stepfather literally fucked them.
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Tough to say, but one thing is fairly clear. Emotionally and intellectually, they never make it past about 12. They cling to the belief, common in children, that reality is subject to magical incantations, and that if they just master the right phrases and use the correct secret handshake, they can alter the way the real world works.
In children, it’s cute. In adults, not so much.
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“The Posse Comitatus Act is the United States federal law that was passed on June 18, 1878, after the end of Reconstruction and was updated in 1981. Its intent (in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807) was to limit the powers of the Federal government in using federal military personnel to enforce state laws.”
From Waco to Wisconsin, OK City to NV the Bundy boys messed this up.
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Because of antics just like Due’s, bogus liens were a big problem in the late 1990s when the Miiitia movement was damn-near omnipresent. Militianoids used the tactic extensively against federal officials, marshals, police officers and just about anyone they disliked. At tjat time it was not a federal offense to file one of these things.
A fine overview of this tactic and the problems caused by it can be found at http://archive.adl.org/mwd/privlien.html
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Funny how the bankers who filed orders of magnitudes of fraudulent mortgage titles did not get 10 years like these pitiful mislead sovereign citizens, eh?
I call these sovereign citizens pitiful because they are right about one thing and wrong about everything else, which allows the internet con artists sell them these books with these tactics which are only “legal” for bankers and not we “peons”!
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They’re like the Christian Scientist who died and went to hell. Sat there with his eyes closed and whenever someone tried to talk to him, he’d say “Shh! I’m not here!”
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Yes, bankers and financiers did terrible things that injured millions and only about three suffered any real consequences. So clearly, because of this injustice, we should just stop punishing other crimes as well.
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Oh c’mon, sooner or later don’t they have to accept personal responsibility?
Which is?
Where in my post did I say they should not be punished?
Is this something that only you can see?
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Search the text of the constitution and you will not find the word “statute” nor “summary” anywhere in it, yet we somehow now we have nothing but statutory and summary courts after the 1930’s, so why is that?
Read the modern definition of “statute” in Blacks law dictionary which is “written law” which is unlike the earlier pre 1930’s proper definition of “contractual statute”, and that definition is obviously total nonsense since our laws have ALWAYS been written since day one and we NEVER had any oral laws to need that distinction!
Since the proper term is really “contractual statute” which means that a valid contract is required to enforce such a provision under summary justice and the uniform commercial code.
The masses were tricked into believing that the “so called statutes” drafted after a law is passed is the law, when in reality they are some bureaucrats idea of what the law should have no more weight in a proper non-statutory court (like we hade pre 1930’s) than my or your interpretation of that law.
One should be able to challenge the constitutionality of ones arrest on the text of the actual law itself in court and not that arbitrary “so called statute” interpretation since one has not signed a contract and agreed to summary justice.
But that would mean the prosecutors and judges would have to actually hold many many many more trials and let many many many more people go free rather than railroading people to prison under obviously unconstitutional laws disguised as “contractual statutes”, which is the reason for the deception in the first place!
If we still had proper pre 1930’s courts victimless crimes like drug possession and prostitution would NEVER result in a guilty verdict since the entirely depend upon “statute”.
Duh - Why do you think they had to pass a constitutional amendment to ban alcohol pre 1930’s yet they didn’t have to do that for other drugs after the 1930’s when statutory courts replaced the proper non-statutory courts!
But he didn’t say that.
Oooo…looks who’s back. Critter…