Discussion: South Africa Summons US Diplomat To Explain Trump's 'Sh*thole' Comment

I’d rather have one of Donnie’s trolls try to explain it to Trevor Noah…

5 Likes

Well I must admit the irony here is really thick since we were one of the principle nations that embargoed South Africa all those years because of apartheid.

And my disgust is complete at being embarrassed by South Africa for being racist. Certainly they understand the problem since they faced theirs squarely, ultimately.

11 Likes

That really is the kicker isn’t it?

5 Likes

I have to say I don’t think it gets any more than this. They can always prove me wrong, but damn.

2 Likes

[TL;DR: I think Trump can go lower, but we as a country will survive because Fuck No this isn’t us, or the “U.S.”]

I don’t know what word got left out at the [?], but I’m not sure it matters. “Depressing”, “disgusting”, “embarrassing”, “deplorable”, “racist”, “shithole-ish”…doesn’t matter. I fear that we’ve a ways to go before “the bottom”. In fact I think that Trump’s very nature requires him to sink ever lower until he is out of office. His base will shrink until it a singularity of hatred, resentment, victimhood, and literal Nazis at which point even laughable hand-waving like “I am the least racist person you will ever interview” will be abandoned. I would not be surprised if that whole “3/5ths vote” thing tries to make a comeback with this administration.

No nuclear war. That was my threshold for “success” for the Trump Presidency back in November 2016. Anything “above” nuclear war is possible, IMO. We just filled in the “blatant racism in policy discussion” box on the BINGO card, is all.There are infinite boxes left…

Having emo’d all of that, I should say that nevertheless I’m optimistic. #MeToo is the latest signal (IMO) that the rise of Trump has not only emboldened The Deplorables™, but also the “Oh Fuck No” contingent. People got a little complacent through the 8 years of No-Drama Obama, and Cheeto Mussolini has been a real kick in the 'nads. The country as a whole is deteriorating, but the country in its parts is rising up here and there, in non-trivial numbers (see e.g. Virginia, Alabama). So I have hope.

If you watched Rachel Maddow’s broadcast after the “shithole” comment, her A-block started with her just being exasperated at all the monumentally stupid shit that she and her writers have to let go because of bigger, more pressing stupid shit that overshadows it. The look on her face and exasperation in her tone, combined with her nevertheless hopeful disposition, kinda mirrors how I feel.

2 Likes

O I’m deeply optimistic. I think the entire GOP is going to crash and burn by November at the latest.

I didn’t leave out a word - that was my hipster sentence structure attempt - it’s just more. Can’t even say what because it’s everything.

2 Likes

Yup. You got it. We ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

4 Likes

Hah, I see. Like omg i can’t even.

1 Like

hahahahaha Yeah. That’s my story anyway. I couldn’t think of a word that said enough so I just went that way.

1 Like
1 Like

Entish - why didn’t I think of that? hahaha

1 Like

Bhaa- raaa- ROOM ! —

2 Likes

Yes. Actually that was utterly perfect - Treebeard’s line

LOTR is my security blanket - when I just can’t tolerate this world anymore I reread it, and for the last week I’ve been thinking I might have another bout of LOTR coming on.

2 Likes

May as well go back to the Silmarillion …

The beginning … is always a good place to ’ start ’ — he he

1 Like

I generally wind up reading it after. hahahahahaha But that’s a good point. I think my copy is in Taos but I bet I put one on my kindle. I’ll have to look - I’m trying to read a Wrinkle in Time and I don’t like it =- too religious. I’ve decided it was exactly the book that made Phillip Pullman write His Dark Materials. Which I love.

So maybe I’ll just fuck that and start the Silmarillion again. Thanks!

2 Likes

I read A Wrinkle In Time during elementary school and loved it. Of course we are talking 1964, so I have absolutely no memory if it had some religious overtone. I also read a book that Summer that belonged to my older siblings called No Children, No Pets, it was quite good. The same Army base library had Call It Courage by Armstrong Sperry, and a slew of novels by Sperry about XIXth Century teenage boys from New England coming of age on sailing ships in the South Pacific.

1 Like

The only explanation that our diplomats can make is that our president is a nut and his comments do not reflect the U.S. or its policies in any way whatsoever, i.e, nobody of significance pays attention to anything he is saying.

There are few books now that I can become as lost in as I did in books I read when I was a kid.

I wanted to read A Wrinkle in Time because I like really good young adult fiction. There are things about it I like, but it does have christian overtones. Its not overbearing, but I’m also not as into the books as I wish.

1 Like

Then you probably would not enjoy the Narnia Chronicles, which I read in Junior HIgh School (a Jesuit Junior High to High School) and in which I can lose myself when I reread them every now and again. I used to reread The Catcher in the Rye every now and again, and for that week and weeks later I would refer to many people as fucking morons. Maybe that’s what happened to Rex Tillerson…