If he could get the nomination we’d all support him if his running mate was a heavy weight. He could deliver Ohio.
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Can you elaborate? Thanks.
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I like Sherrod Brown a lot. I think he would be a good candidate.
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The top 3 candidates for the Dems are Klobuchar, Harris and Brown. The next level are Booker and Gillibrand.
Everyone else is third tier. With fringe candidates like Ojeda thinking they want in, we need to put our best foot forward. Sherrod Brown can beat Donald Trump and win the midwest for the Dems. He should run.
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Yes. I think Harris-Brown or Brown-Harris wins 55% of the two party vote and runs the table on the battleground states in the EC.
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Hey, excellent results here in California, although we probably fell short of flipping CA39.
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Dammit, I love Sherrod, but we can’t lose that Senate seat. The 2020 map’s decent for Dems but hardly a slam-dunk; and without the personal loyalty he’s earned, I’m far from confident we could hold the seat given how red Ohio’s looking after this election. Not to mention that their Republican governor would be appointing his replacement in the meantime. We’ve got a terrific bench; Sherrod, I beg you, stay put.
Harris-O’Rourke 2020. Second choice, Klobuchar-O’Rourke. At least for now; I look forward to seeing this field in action.
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Hillary made that mistake in 2016 (not picking Brown). We need to win the WH and staff up the courts again. We’re gonna be 2 or 3 seats away from a Senate majority whether Brown wins or loses.
I don’t think Beto is electorally viable. If you look at his electoral coalition, he didn’t do well enough among white voters to matter nationally. The best thing for Beto to do would be to run again in TX against Cornyn. He might win, but he could also lay the groundwork for Brown, Klobuchar or Harris to win the state and to also help the party win a few more House seats.
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I’m not sure I understand the idea of Klobuchar. I’m willing to be convinced, but I just don’t see her resonating. Why would she?
Well, they need to start thinking about it. Just no circuses like the GOP primary. Yikes
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Every Senator thinks he can be President, and Sherrod Brown is no exception. He has a lot of progressive and labor support, but I am not sure he would play that well on television or in the heartland.
All she does is crush her opponents by winning over 60% of the vote. That’s better than any one else who is a potential candidate.
She wins MN, WI, MI apretty easily. I also think she wins PA with Casey like margins. She’d probably win IA with Obama '12 margins. In OH, I think she would frustrate the hell out of Trump and probably take it by 2.5 points. If you look at who won the tough races in 2018, it was almost all women. Election night 2018 turned around when two women, Abigail Spanberger and Elaine Luria, turned 2 tight races in their favor. Once we won those 2, we were off to the races.
Women voted for Dems by a 59-40 margin. I think Klobuchar achieves that margin.
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Gavin Newsom should be on your list.
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This is from a while ago, but Al Franken had nothing but praise for Klobuchar in his book and said that she’s extremely hard working.
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Hillary was up against a lot more than our 2020 candidate will be, whatever Russia and the Trumpists, et al., try to pull. And you sound even more pessimistic than I am about our chances in the Senate. As for Beto, right now my 2020 speculation is basically a fantasy parlor game (as is everyone’s, IMO).
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I’m not pessimistic about the Senate at all. It’s not a gimme map but we can take it and even win as many as 5 or 6 seats. I think the economy will suck by '20 and that will give Dems a message to hammer and we’ll stand a good chance to win.
But we need the WH. Sherrod Brown is one of the best moves for us to get the WH. Therefore, I put him on the ticket unless someone can show me a better option (hint: it’s not Beto).
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I love Gavin Newsom, but I think he’s too “California” for much of the country.
Also, I am expecting that sometime in the next two years, Trump will finally manage to drive the economy all the way into the ditch again, and Gavin might have his hands plenty full with Governor-type economic nuts & bolts stuff right here.
But if he handles that inevitable crisis reasonably well, and resists the temptation to blow most of the financial cushion that Jerry Brown is bequeathing him before he really needs it, then that ought to do good things for any future national ambitions.
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Yeah like all political parties ever haven’t been trying to attract the white working class male. They are such an underclass - the poor things. My heart truly bleeds all over their shoes.
They vote against their own interests because they are racists and I’m not interested in attracting racists.
Our base is African American voters. We win when they turn out. Kamala Harris will turn out our voters and she has the charisma to attract other voters.
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Oh, then I misunderstood your “we’re gonna be 2 or 3 seats away from a Senate majority” – I guess you were talking pre-2021. So then I’m the less sanguine one about the 2020 map (odds favor Dems, but not massively), and I don’t want to lose that seat.
Believe me, I see the argument for Brown; I was wishing we could clone him in 2016 so one of him could run with Hillary. (With all the smears and the NYT and Comey, I’m not convinced even he could have made the difference, though given the miniscule margins in the key states it’s certainly possible). And again, my Beto-for-VP is not as fervently held a position as you seem to think, terrific as I think he is; you really don’t need to keep trying to talk me out of it ;).
The Washington Post did an exit poll in battleground districts, among those who voted for the Democratic candidate, asking which Democratic candidates for president in 2020 they would prefer. Of course, the choices predictably seem to run on name recognition, with Joe Biden running more than double the percentage of anyone else, but there are some surprises, I think, among the lower percentages, so it’s interesting. Brown wasn’t on the list of choices, which is weird and I don’t understand the Post’s reasoning there. It’s been obvious he’s going to run for some time and he’s not a lightweight. Actually, the list of choices as a whole is pretty weird. But the results are still worth a look, and there are other questions that the poll asked that are well worth the time.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/politics/midterm-battleground-districts/
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