Discussion: Sherrod Brown: 'If Stacey Abrams Doesn't Win In Georgia, They Stole It'

Police arrested 15 people, including state Sen. Nikema Williams, an Atlanta Democrat. […] She […] was booked and strip-searched at the Fulton County jail and held for five hours. […] “I didn’t do anything to obstruct anyone from doing their job or their business on the floor,” Williams said. “What I did was I stood with my constituents as they wanted their voices to be heard.”

The Firehose Next Time.

 

No Republican senators stood to address Williams’ arrest.

“Or your shadow at evening rising to meet you;
I will show you fear in a handful of dust.”

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Our “elections” need foreign observers.

No democracy, no justice.

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Sherrod Brown’s comments are not helpful at this time. Yes, Brian Kemp’s voter supression tactics as Secretary of State were beyond the pale, but this was baked into the equation when voters went to the polls. Now the vote counts continue in Georgia and the interim Sec of State has done nothing to impede the process. Brown’s comments are reminiscent of Trump’s whiny complaints and helps legitimize the baseless “voter fraud!” excuses of Republicans who have lost their races.

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We need to be a little cautious throwing around that popular Republican phrase "They Stole It"

I know it , you know it and the American people know it.
However… Preface it with some facts

• Last year, Kemp purged over half-a-million voters from the rolls claiming that they had moved from the state
• He announced November 4, with zero evidence, that the democrats had attempted to hack the state’s voter registration system and that his office would be opening an investigation. He posted it front-and-center on the state department’s website under the headline: “After Failed Hacking Attempt, SOS Launches Investigation into Georgia Democratic Party.”
• He also tried to use what’s known as the “exact match” requirement which would purge a voter for inconsistencies such as a misplaced hyphen, a difference in an accent mark, or the absence of a middle initial. In other words, everything needs to match exactly on all of your forms or you can’t vote. This led to 53,000 registrations being put on hold, 70% of whom were African Americans.
• On election day there were reports of three-hour-plus wait times as well as machine malfunctions, and a lack of power cords to run the machines in Snellville, Georgia, which has a higher than average African-American population.

Ya They stole it

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see if we can bring some kind of resolve to the matter at hand.

Somebody brought the resolve to the matter, but it wasn’t the one you wanted, Mr. Lt. Gov.

If you’re looking for a resolution, perhaps you should suggest to ex- SecState that he admit he’s lost legitimacy and accept the runoff.

And @opaquesquid: Voter suppression should never be “baked into the equation”, especially when it’s ex post facto. Not counting votes because of an artificial deadline, or because the person put the date of the signature - and by the way, who asks for date of birth on the signature line instead of the date they signed it, unless it’s to deliberately cause this kind of trouble - or asking for signature matching is simple theft. And sure, Brown may be positioning himself for a 2020 run, but someone’s got to get in there on the Dems’ side and hold up a magnifying glass to the fraud being perpetuated across this country by the 'Pukes.

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We’re 18 years out from Florida 2000, and this is still happening. Kudos to Brown for bringing it up.

We have no Federal Uniform Voting standards, and therefore, our “election” results cannot be trusted.

For example, we should have ballots that are uniform and re-countable with a paper trail, like ATM receipts. All voting machine software should be open-source.

Americans seem to only care if our elections look legitimate, even if they actually are not.

No democracy, no justice

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No shit they stole it! Election integrity experts have been screaming from the rooftops since the Shelby County decision that Republican’ts were going to steal elections en masse, but for the last two years all the Democrats could talk about was Russia and, like Linus waiting for The Great Pumpkin on Halloween, sit around and wait for Robert Mueller to descend from the heavens and save them from their own incompetence. So yes, they stole it. But the Democratic Party aided and abetted that theft through catastrophic negligence…

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A black woman is fighting for justice? Can’t have that, can you Georgia?

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I live in Georgia, and Sherrod Brown is right on the mark. It’s also nice to see Democrats giving the GOP a taste of their own medicine. Don’t worry about riling up the GOP. They’ll hate us no matter what we do. Fight, fight, fight.

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I can tell you right now that my signature doesn’t match the one I signed to my voter registration form when I moved to my current residence ten years ago. Thanks, Osteoarthritis! The requirement is naked voter suppression, period.

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My signature is sloppy and varies depending on the pen I’m using and my mental and physical state. It’s never exactly the same.

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What do you mean?

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How is it baked into the equation if the whole point was to prevent people from getting to said polls or casting one’s vote?

“[The judge] declined to extend the period during which evidence could be submitted to prove the eligibility of voters who cast provisional ballots. He also declined to order that provisional ballots cast by voters who went to a precinct in the wrong county be counted.”

This whole rush to close the time to present evidence is, to me, evidence of bad faith. I can see a reasonable period of time (days, not weeks) but I can’t see a reasonable basis to shut down the process. Sure, there’s interest in finality and you don’t want things to seem unsteady but shutting down the opportunity to correct information that was used to exclude an otherwise lawful vote only contributes to an impression of illegitimacy.

Meanwhile, Kemp’s elections director is saying they need to hurry up so they have time to plan for a runoff? WTF? If you don’t count the votes, you don’t need the runoff, you dolt. (But I’m sure they know that already. We see you, GA GOP.)

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I believe at this point, after years of voter suppression, no recount will work - the election was already crooked years ago and the only way to get a fair one is to go back in time and remove Kemp from his office. He has done even more than Kobach did in KS to remove potential Democrats from the rolls and he has gotten what he wants. It is criminal.

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I think Sherrod Brown is saying what needs to be said. The party that is stealing elections and rigging the vote cannot be the only party that claims elections are being stolen and votes are being rigged.

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Brown needed to say that, and he knew he needed to say that, because that’s the truth. Go Stacey! Show the Dems how to fight!! Let your Dora Milaje spirit rub off on those milk toast establishment over-the-hill-gang Dems. Go home to your rocking chairs!

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but for the last two years all the Democrats could talk about was Russia and, like Linus waiting for The Great Pumpkin on Halloween, sit around and wait for Robert Mueller to descend from the heavens and save them from their own incompetence.

Not going to rack up a lot of likes with honesty like that. Also, over 90 percent of the people who comment here are waiting for Mueller to save them from Trump. Myself, I don’t know if he will or not, but my money is on Trump surviving anything Mueller will be allowed to throw at him. Republicans don’t leave anything to chance. They never would’ve voted to allow Mueller to be set loose unless they had an ace in the hole. They just don’t play that way. After Nixon, the last thing Republicans want is for another Republican president to leave office in disgrace, or to be proven to be corrupt. They would never allow even a small chance of that happening. That’s the simple reason I have thought from the start that Mueller will not bring Trump down or be allowed to hurt him.
Losing the House may have thrown a wrench into their plans. That said, I’m sure they’ve had a plan B in place from the beginning. They’re not the sort of party who simply hopes for the best.

H/T to the James Baldwin reference.

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