Discussion: Sessions Orders Review Of FBI Inaction On Tip About Suspected Florida Shooter

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You all realize the original assault weapon ban was so poorly written it was virtually unenforceable. We would have better luck banning semi-automatic rifles designed to operate with detachable magazines. Of course, people like me who use them in organized shooting sports will scream but their concerns can be handled by requiring anyone who really needs one for a sporting or similar purpose to license the rifle and the magazines. There are middle grounds if you want to consider them.

This time lets involve people who actually know about guns.

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Mistakes were made.

How would you have written it?

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Have Chuck Grassley check this one out. He’s the guy who introduced the legislation to put the gun into the next shooter’s hands.

As long as Sessions doesn’t decide to quit, there is nothing he could say or do that I would give a damn about.

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Alternate headline:

KKKeebler Begins Desperate Search For Scapegoat, Mueller Distraction

OT Eddie rAyn went to Florida night. To mourn the loss of massacre of too many young people and their dedicated teachers just two days earlier?

Nah. He had priorities — raising money for the National Republican Congressional Committee. Classy.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article200663374.html

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Sporting events are not a sufficient reason to have weapons of this type in circulation. Get rid of them.

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I would start by not using the term “assault rifle.” That is a term invented by Hitler for marketing purposes. Instead I would focus on the weapon’s physical characteristics. We are talking about a semi-automatic center fire rifle designed to use a detachable magazine larger than 10 rounds. There are a lot of hunting semi-auto rifles with detachable magazines. Up to 10 rounds is a good compromise for sporting purposes. Ten rounds is the magazine size approved for use in pistols in California.

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Do you want to stand on your ground or do you want to fashion something that could pass?

You understand that there are literally millions of AR-15s in circulation today. A lot of people have invested a lot of money in them. If you are going to ban them outright you will run straight into depriving people of personal property without due process. In short a giant can of worms.

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I remember that vividly.

Many pants were filled at the Capitol that day.

And, yes, California gun laws changed virtually overnight.

Somebody noted on Twitter that the fastest way to change gun laws
in the US is begin a campaign to arm all black Americans.

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The FBI thoroughly investigated Boston marathon bomber and nothing came of it. Until we either have a future crimes unit and/or a functioning mental health care infrastructure shit be gonna slip through the cracks.

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That reminds me, How is that thoroughly discredited weaponized* anthrax investigation going?

*courtesy of your friendly Idaho National Laboratory of Idaho Falls.

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C’mon, give local cops a break! They only reported him 30 times. Besides if they go arresting all crazy gun nuts in Florida there will be no one to pay their salaries.

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[quote=“ronbyers, post:26, topic:68713, full:true”]
I would start by not using the term “assault rifle.” That is a term invented by Hitler for marketing purposes.[/quote]

Was the term “assault rifle” key to the 1994 ban? Or did you mean “assault weapon”?

(As for Mr. Hitler, I’d rather leave him out of this, if you don’t mind.)

Instead I would focus on the weapon’s physical characteristics. We are talking about a semi-automatic center fire rifle designed to use a detachable magazine larger than 10 rounds. There are a lot of hunting semi-auto rifles with detachable magazines. Up to 10 rounds is a good compromise for sporting purposes. Ten rounds is the magazine size approved for use in pistols in California.

Here are some things you may recognize from Feinstein’s 2013 attempt:

  1. Ban the sale, transfer, manufacturing, etc., of about 150 named weapons, plus certain other weapons fitted for detachable magazines and having “at least one military characteristic.”

  2. To determine what constitutes an assault weapon, abandon the old two-characteristic test and instead use a one-characteristic test that is less easily skirted.

  3. Ban all firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons.”

  4. Ban high-capacity ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.

Did I miss something important?

Which of these elements did you support in 2013? Which did you oppose?

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The Gunshine State™

Fun Fact:
Minimum age to drink alcohol in Florida? 21.
Minimum age to buy an AR-15? 18.

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You oppose a ban that includes buy-backs?

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I forgot to ask: Are the assault-weapon bans currently in force in eight states also virtually unenforceable?

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So let people have their M-16’s. Tax the living shit out of bullets.

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Guns are one of three main reasons the United States has become “the most dangerous of wealthy nations for a child to be born into,” according to a study in Health Affairs. The other two are vehicle crashes and infant mortality.

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The only characteristic that is important is magazine capacity larger than 10 rounds. The rest are meaningless. That is what I support now.

And the term Assault Rifle was coined by Hitler when he named the “Sturmgewehr 44,” “assault rifle 44.”

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No, you would just create a black market in bullets. Just ban magazines larger than 10 rounds. Personally I could live with a magazine capacity of 5 rounds, but I don’t think there is a chance of that being passed.

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I’ll take it.

Thanks.