Discussion: Senate Weighs Delaying VA Secretary Confirmation Hearing For Trump's Doctor

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Do a big favor, get a big job, turn out to be crooked, rinse and repeat, most corrupt administration in history, good morning everyone. All quiet on the western front.

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How many people from the Spanky (mal)administration does this make who’ve learned that they would have been better off being less greedy or ambitious?

Any bets on how long before this guy withdraws his name from consideration???

(Plus: wtf did he do – fake Spanky’s results??)

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I think he was the wrong guy in the wrong place. He should have politely refused the offer, been a shitty doctor for a bit more and then retired. Instead he got sucked down the inescapable gravitational pull of the tRump blackhole of career-death and now he’ll carry the perma-Sharpie-like mark of tRump-taint the rest of his life.

ETTD.

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I’ve got $50 that says Trump never asked him - just threw in his name. He probably found out through Twitter.

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As of last night nobody was being specific but the talk was of questionable stuff at various times in his career, more a pattern than a one-off thing.

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According to CBS News, also on Maddow last night, it may be more than just no big administrative experience…

“Sources familiar with the tales say Sen. Jon Tester’s committee staff is reviewing multiple allegations of a “hostile work environment.” The accusations include “excessive drinking on the job, improperly dispensing meds,” said one of the people familiar, who was granted anonymity to speak frankly about the situation. The other people familiar with the stories also confirmed those details.”
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/top-senate-dem-on-veterans-affairs-asks-for-delay-in-ronny-jacksons-confirmation-hearing/1

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I can just see how this went down.
“I’m 6’3 and 230 lb.”
“You’re 6’, 270, have high blood pressure and a life expectancy of 5 years”
“No, you’re wrong”
“So, I heard about an opening in VA. Any truth to that rumor?”
“Maybe”
“Hmm… heart sounds good all of a sudden. You look tall and trim. In fact, if you had kept better habits all your life, you could live to 200”
“Say that in public! Sounds good”
“Sure thing”"

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Any of those meds going to Spanky?

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On the morning news they made it sound like there were some skeletons, or since he’s a Dr. may they are bodies, in his closet or something.

And the other thing is what it takes to be a good Dr.(if he is) vs a good leader of a healthcare system don’t necessarily go hand in hand.

“We’ve got 360,000 people there,” he said. “Are they going to manage the secretary or is the secretary going to manage the VA?

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Whatever the truth, it’s impossible to wonder if there was a quid pro quo between Jackson and Trump.
His bizarre news conference about Trump, and the unbelievable, medically incorrect statements about Trump’s health, raised too many questions.

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Yeah, the notion that they’re delaying the hearings so that they can more fully examine the question of his experience managing a large organization is transparent nonsense. What, he’s going to add some more resume bullets in the next few weeks?

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I’ve worked in health care most of my adult life–at the bottom of the food chain–and have seen the simplest explanation of this (the Peter Principle) play out over and over.
Good floor nurse becomes lousy charge nurse. Decent charge nurse becomes crappy unit manager. Good unit manager becomes DON from Hell.
It may be just that simple: medical skills vs administrative skills.
Or it may not. That truly bizarre Twitler medical report needs some explaining.
Why would ANY medical professional put their name to something blatantly false unless they were acting under duress? Just. Don’t. Get. It.

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What puzzles me is the CBS stuff is specific, with allegations of drinking on the job and improperly dispensing meds, but although it mentions a “hostile work environment” it then goes on to specify only those two things. A hostile environment usually refers to some sort of harassment, so either someone misused the term or there’s more to come out. Anyway, it’s obviously your typical Trumpian extreme non-vetting, where apparently zero effort goes into finding out whether there’s a reason this person might not be right for the job, overseeing 360K people and hundreds of billions of dollars and all those veterans we never properly cared about until Trump came along. Fuck.

Managing people, projects and organizations requires a set of discrete skills that often have very little to do with the hands-on skills involved in the actual widget-making process. You can be a whiz with a lathe and not be ready to run the plant starting Monday. The idea is absurd. Trump has no idea what’s involved with management, though, because he’s never done it well himself. That, and he’s stupid.

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If true, I take back anything positive I said about the guy in the other thread. Substance abuse among physicians is a very real and dangerous problem, and a guy with those problems cannot be the face of an organization treating veterans with PTSD, regardless of anything else.

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Yeah the main reason Donald suggested him was probably due to how easily he was able to get him to give him a good report, although external looks don’t always reflect interval health. Eg. Donald’s dad looked out of shape but lived a long time, Bob Harper looks and is in good shape externally, but had internal issues.

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Imagining here - nurse says - “This guy is in awful shape. He’s overweight and mentally deranged”. Dr. says - “Either you go along with my statement and say he’s in perfect health because of his good Aryan genetics or your fired”
That could be a pretty hostile work environment. :hushed: .
And maybe non-vetting to a normal government appointment in the world of donald is like this:
Hey Ronnie - we wanna privatize the VA, are you in? OK then, you’re our guy!
Easy Peasy vetting.

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