Discussion: Senate Looks Likely To Yank U.S. Aid From Yemen; House Probably Won't

Democrats are every bit the vicious war criminals as are the GOP. Do not support either part nationally - for any government job, only locally if your candidate is Progressive.

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Good job holding the Democratic caucus together, Nancy! What a brilliant leader! You’re going to be a great Speaker, just like you were with George W. Bush (R-War Criminal).

Five Democrats standing with the House Republicans and President Trump to support the U.S.-supported genocide in Yemen. Only 84,000 kids have died of deliberate systematic starvation, so far.

Only 84,000 kids. So far.

But let’s all look away because we won the House! Nancy’s back! Happy days are here again!

Of course, Obama started the U.S. support for it, so I guess supporting genocide is all good with some Democrats now.

No democracy, no justice.

McConnell:

I think every single member of this body shares grave concerns about the murder of Khashoggi and wants accountability, “We also want to preserve a 70-year partnership between the United States GOP and Saudi Arabia.

FIFY Mitch… gotta keep that cash flowing.

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Largest cholera outbreak in modern history? 14 million people starving? How can that possibly compare to Raytheon’s balance sheet when the Saudis are firing off $3.2 million patriot missiles to shoot down homemade fireworks? How can that compare when the Saudi military, dumping $50 billion a year into this conflict since 2015, needs to buy American servicing and maintenance contracts for all their stuff? Contractors have jobs in every congressional district in the country just for this contingency, aka, great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money. Eew.

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Well , if Diaper Donny wants to keep getting his funny money commissions from the Saudi*s …

Yeah right. You forgot to tell us about how “you left the party”. Take walk in Gorky Park dude. Get some air and come back and try again.

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[Responded elsewhere, but here again:]

Yes, the war in Yemen is horrible. The vote you’re talking about allowed the Republicans to squeeze their Saudi protection plan into the farm bill, but it seems the five Democrats who went along don’t particularly want to continue the war in Yemen; they just don’t care one way or the other:

Peterson, a Democrat, admits to not knowing a damn thing about the war in Yemen which you and I are being forced to subsidize. And as indicated, he and his four Democratic colleagues could have tried to evade the Republican trap but declined to do so.

So yes, the five of them should be pilloried and maybe even primaried.

You’re blaming Pelosi because, despite her reputation for playing hard-ball, she could not prevent the five from betraying the party. I don’t know how much power she had over them in this instance. Do you?

And note that six other Democrats simply failed to turn up to vote. Had they voted, Ryan might have been foiled after all.

But further: When it comes to US support for the war in Yemen, you will not find a member of Congress who has worked harder to stop it than Democrat Ro Khanna. You remember that he endorsed Bernie Sanders; he also supports Nancy Pelosi (and vice versa). And he supports the “Green New Deal” put forward by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and others. Have you looked at Khanna’s net worth? It’s not inconsiderable (mostly because of his wife’s family). And have you looked at how he funds his campaigns? Like O’Rourke down in Texas, he accepts no money from PACs; but at the same time he raised half a million dollars from individuals in the securities industry.

 
@tpr

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Not even out of the chute yet and the Democrats do their Democrat thing. Defeat themselves. There was a golden opportunity in this effort. No one likes Saudi Arabia except Trump and the USA’s standing in the world is at an all time low. Two birds with one stone, slapping MbS and carving back a bit of that lost moral authority, but instead the good ole’ Dems decided to shoot themselves in both feet with one bullet. The House will be the body that shuts this down and the Democrats are moving in next month. Round 1 goes to Trump.

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Tell me again about purity…

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I think if you’re going to say Obama “supported genocide” you might want to back it up with a bit more than an all caps rant. Did you think before you clicked reply?

Had this issue come up as a clean bill it would not passed with a single Democrat. It was attached to a farm bill and 5 tunneled visioned ignorant Democrats voted for it. I doubt LBJ could have moved them. They’re assholes and hopefully they’ll get their just due when committee assignments are made. Unless your getting a Russian or GOP’er paycheck for hanging around here please consider getting your ducks in order before you lob grenades in the joint.

BTW: Anti Pelosi shit is over. That’s GOP’er crap and it failed.

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Misleading headline.

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Shorter Mel: As an opportunist who has advanced herself rather far, I never focus on gossip!

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No.

If anything, not questioning your leaders is what’s Republican.

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I can’t, with any stretch of my imagination, link the two. Pelosi was never the GOP’s leader and they did pile crap on her. But she’s back and in power over them.

What is your “no” about?

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“all caps rant”???

Yes, I thought before I clicked reply. I even included a link!

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Yes, and the link does provide evidence that “Obama started the U.S. support for [the Saudi campaign in Yemen]” — but it may take more to back up the assertion that Obama supported genocide.

(I’m not disputing the assertion here.)

So even though the Republican leadership is responsible for this failure to act, even though the Trump administration has been blocking all attempts to hold Saudi Arabia accountable or to stop U.S. support for this war, even though Pelosi did manage to hold over 90% of the Democratic Congress together, even though Obama left office two years ago, your first thought on this is to slime Obama and Pelosi.

That says a lot about you, none of it good.

Nobody here has any problem with questioning leaders, Democrat and Republican alike. What we do have a problem with is dishonest sliming, like insisting that “supporting genocide is all good with some Democrats now” or that Obama bears any responsibility for that “genocide,” or that Pelosi has anything at all to do with anything under discussion in this thread.

All of that is dishonest and it has no place in a rational discussion of these issues.

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The blockade of Yemen started in October 2016 with U.S. support.

Who was President then?

According to U.S. Senator Chris Murphy: “Thousands and thousands inside Yemen today are dying. … This horror is caused in part by our decision to facilitate a bombing campaign that is murdering children and to endorse a Saudi strategy inside Yemen that is deliberately using disease and starvation and the withdrawal of humanitarian support as a tactic.”

Thanks, Obama (D-War Criminal).

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