Discussion: Senate Intel Chair Won't Rule Out Holding Flynn In Contempt Of Congress

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(5th amendment)

Yes, but that was the Old Nixon Trump Nixon

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It launches a process in the Senate that eventually lands in the local US district attorney’s lap. The DA decides whether to pursue the case. Flynn is not jailed during all this.

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Dunno. I think the Sergeant-at-Arms of the Senate (or the Masonic Lodge) has to do something.

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I don’t know if this new guy the GOP appointed Sergeant-at-arms is going to work out. Although he had a pretty good character reference, it was from Colonel Klink who I’ve never met. We’ll have to wait and see.

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‘Contempt of Congress’
man o man them’s fighting words Burr. I thought MOST people were already there


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I imagine Hillary is feeling good about this news. She sure as hell deserves to feel good about something, other than winning the popular vote bigly.

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Seems like a decent sort of bloke

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Looks like it’s clobberin’ time. Maybe he is what we need. Also I guess you could call the GOP Senate Caucus the Moronic Lodge. Or the GOP anything.

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Burr’s foot-dragging can only be viewed in the context of a willing accomplice to the lawlessness of the Trump* regime.

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Probably very little. But it will add another bullet item for Flynn’s List of Accomplishments on his rĂ©sumĂ©.

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My parents were Communists for a time (1933- 1945 or so) and in 1954 my father was HUACed out of his teaching job, where he supposedly indoctrinated third graders with subversion while teaching them how to scrape the violin in the Detroit Public Schools. My family followed the course of the great witch-hunt closely, and so I remember well what happened to such as the “Hollywood Ten” some of whom went to prison for “Contempt of Congress” — never mind that then as now Congress was rather contemptible. Refusing a subpoena, be it Congressional or a local Court, is contempt (isn’t it?) so I will be most interested to see what happens to Gen. Flynn. Seeing as IOKIYAR, I do wonder what will, or will not, happen.

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When you said “bullet item” you struck a nerve with Flynn. He knows Pootie doesn’t like loose ends.

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If this were a static situation there wouldn’t be much hope. But considering the White House Horrors that are being made public today, it looks like opportunities to create public pressure are going to be plentiful in the future.

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So the answer is you are going to do nothing about it.

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Courts can’t quash congressional subpoenas. Separation of powers.

Put simply, Congress can compel the production of documents and sworn testimony from almost anyone at almost any time. And unlike the judicial process overseen by the courts, the congressional system offers relatively few procedural protections for those individuals or companies who find themselves subject to, what founder and early Supreme Court Justice James Wilson called, “the grand inquest of the state.” As an independent and coequal branch of government, Congress’s investigative power is largely unchecked by the courts, as a matter of constitutional design. Thus, the true limitations upon Congress’s authority are pragmatic and based upon institutional and political power dynamics.
https://www.mayerbrown.com/files/Publication/ec1203b2-a787-44ac-8344-5d5fab374ffa/Presentation/PublicationAttachment/11509b8b-df81-4db6-9e89-1d1b16c20856/White-Paper-Congressional-Subpoena.pdf

A court can quash a court-ordered subpoena, but not a congressional one.

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" Senate Intel Chair Won’t Rule Out Holding Flynn In Contempt Of Congress."

Won’t rule out? What kind of Intel Chair are you? Flynn is essentially telling you and your committee to eff off. You need to do something about that, Mr. Chairman.

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True, why punish him for something everybody feels?

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“not ruling it out” and doing it are two different things. Flynn is in contempt. “not ruling it out” is a polite way, dare we say politically correct way, of letting Flynn get away with it.

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I’m not sure that was Flynn. Trump did do it though. The 5th offers pretty broad protection. If providing those docs to Congress would likely lead to a criminal referral he’s within his rights to withhold the docs. It’s up to his attorneys to convince the world thats the case.