Discussion: Senate Embarks On Immigration Debate With No Solution In Sight

You assume that people who need to are actually going to listen to a message. They don’t care who delivers what message. Congress as an institution has the lowest approval in the modern era, and it’s lower than trump’s. That’s how bad it is. So, the whole messaging, optics, framing buzzwords we’ve learned to say doesn’t matter. People wish a pox on the entire body.

@nemo I repeat. No one’s listening

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The American public hates Congress, thinks it’s irrelevant and when it can turns to its states for solutions. Fortunately some blue states are taking on the role of creating immigration policy as best they can without the constant threat of ICE stepping on them…

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Dreamers are listening.

They probably are listening and what they’re hearing is the noise of indecision and of one party’s obstruction and the sound of the other party trying to do what it can and not being able to succeed. My state has the largest percentage of dreamers in the country, I’m told, and my Senator Harris has made it her life’s work to bring about a change for the good. But this country elected a racist. That can’t be defeated.

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Is it ever possible to take a Ted Cruz seriously again? I’m sure he has some shit heel reason to vote no on taking up debate. I’m sure he believes in his own BS reason. But is his vote a signification that he believes in the status quo?

Yet even though he was born in Canada, he thinks the Constitution is wrong on his qualifications to be President. It’s fucking nuts.

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Only if it’s to someplace where I’ll get to sing “I’ll see you … in C-U … B-A.”

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I’m confused. Although Cruz is constitutionally unqualified to be President he is still qualified Constitutionally. Although he was born in Canada he is still a U.S. citizen, just as the Panamanian-born Sid McCrashcup is.

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It would be easier to impeach the shithead in chief who made this mess than to get a DACA bill that will pass muster with said shithead in chief.

… his little dog, Pence, too.

So the senate has realised that if Americans are going to work in the fields they will want more than the minimum wage that immigrants get . Mind , immigrants get less than the minimum wage anyway .

I thought of something and I just wanted to bring it up. Is there any reason why Dreamers couldn’t have applied for citizenship in the years they’ve been here? If they could have and didn’t, that’s problematic. Being a citizen would give them primarily the right to vote and turn out to oppose the man who wants to destroy their lives.

There was and is no way for Dreamers to apply or qualify for citizenship. The purpose of the DREAM Act is to create a a merit-based path to permanent residency. Once you’re a permanent resident, you can then apply to become a citizen.

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Thanks for this. I didn’t know it. If you think I’m unsympathetic to the obstacles the Dreamers face, I’m not. I’m in San Francisco, and I see and read about the effect trumpp’s stance is taking on ordinary people. We have an intransigent president who’ll figuratively stand in the doorway (as George Wallace did in AL long ago) to prevent Latinos and other immigrants being granted civil rights.

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