Discussion: Senate Dems Plot Vote To Overturn Citizens United In 2014

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This is something that needs to be done, futile though it may be. It will show all those Tea Partiers what kind of Senate representation they get and who their Senators REALLY work for!

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I get the point heā€™s trying to make. But Iā€™ll be honestā€¦Iā€™m not in favor of empty Constitutional Amendment legislation that just waste peopleā€™s timeā€¦thatā€™s a space the RWNJs have carved out for themselvesā€¦no need for the Dā€™s to join them. There is zero chance at this time of the country coming together enough to pass any amendment, let alone one as complex as this will likely end up being. Iā€™d say save this for when/if the lunacy ever starts to die down.

Thatā€™s a fair point, but this is a conversation that needs to be had, and thereā€™s only one way to start it.

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It really doesnā€™t matter if such an amendment passes. It doesnā€™t matter if it DOESNā€™T pass. What MATTERS is that we get to beat the Republicans over the head with it again and again.

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No less futile than voting down ACA 50 times.

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I wonder if they can craft the amendment in stone? Hmmm.

Be that as it may, this needs to happen, if only to show clearly whose side everyone is on. Also this should help shush the ā€œboth sides do it/are the same!ā€ crowd or at least give something to say while in the process of telling them to shut up.

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Doing it once to show where people stand is not the same as doing it once a month year after year because youā€™ve got nothing else. Iā€™m open to anything that increases the conversation about getting money out of politics and starts to put politicianā€™s votes on record on the issue.

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While they have noble intentions it will waste time like the Obamacare repeal votes do

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The ā€œthis is futile and is just going to be a waste of timeā€ is the wrong attitude to have. Thatā€™s the attitude we often accuse elected Democrats of having.

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Minor. What matters is the grass roots movements to get as many states as possible to sign on, then get a second Occupy movement to sit in at Congressional offices.

Itā€™s about time that Democrats showed a little spine of these important issues, regardless of whether Republicans plan to allow them to pass or not. Let people see very clearly and plainly who the right-wing stands with: billionaires and multinational corporations, not with working people.

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But I was told yesterday, on this very blog, that the reason why young people wonā€™t get out and vote is because

  • the Dems arenā€™t doing anything and;
  • they donā€™t even try to offer ā€œlip serviceā€ to the Dem base even though itā€™s so successful a tactic for the GOP

This person thought these 2 issues were completely real (when, in fact, itā€™s BS) is why young people see both sides are the same.

I tried to point out that Dems have been trying to get their ideas across to the general public sometimes successfully, sometimes only to sink into a black hole.

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Iā€™m pretty sure I was in that same thread. With all due respect to the commenters in this thread who have said this, conflating the Dems attempting something the Republicans will try to block because theyā€™re sold and funded is not the same as the Republicans not even attempting to govern and doing the same thing 40 times just for show.

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Anyone interested in the actual text of the amendment (assuming, of course, the Democrats bring the text from Udall to the floor):

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They should introduce it every Congress, on the first day they meet.

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Uggā€™ll do it for free. OK, reasonable.

p.s. Actually, free, just had to be 20 characters. ||:āŠƒ)

Sad to say, teabaggers are not clear enough thinkers to understand what this is all about.

This is something that will make a plain field. Do it asap.