Discussion: Sen. Graham Pushes His Own Bill After Senate GOP O'Care Legislation Stalls

Oooooh, here comes the next cat fight.

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Nothing like the smell of internecine warfare first thing in the morning.

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Ohioans, if DC returns the money to the states you can kiss your Medicaid Expansion goodbye. Oh wait, the legislature will kill it anyway as soon as Kasich leaves office.

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Randomly pushing and pulling levers is not a good way to drive a train. Itā€™s also a disastrous way to make health care policy.

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Everyone knowledgeable has said that full repeal would take 60 votes.

What is Mitch McConnell smoking that he believes that he could peal off 8 Democrats to vote for that?

This has turned into, and will continue to beā€¦

A full scale head-on Trump/GOP Mongolian-Cluster-Fck Sht-Show and there is NO good ending.

Watch for more insurers to pack up their pens and pencils and pull out of states if they can not make hellacious premium increase to deal with ā€˜uncertaintyā€™.

Lindsey - no 2 statesā€™ health care needs are the same? Actually, states donā€™t have health care needs - the people who live in those states do. And the health care needs of large groups of people are very much the same, no matter where they live. But, if your purpose is to provide health care on the level of what the consumer really needs, hereā€™s an idea - single payer or, at least, the public option. Spread the risk, lower the cost, people go get the health care they need.

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Now, now, South Carolinians are upset fainting couches are not included in ObamaCare.

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ā€¦and that only YANKEES get the smelling salts.

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Is his comment an oblique reference to womenā€™s health care?

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Graham: Please donā€™t make me vote no on the repeal bill I voted yes on two years ago.
McConnell: Fuck you. If Iā€™m going down, Iā€™m taking you all with me.

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Instead of 1-SIZE FITS ALL solution from Washington should return dollars back to the states ā€“ address individual states health care needs.

Awesome. We should call this brand new, never before heard of feature something like ā€œState Health Insurance Exchanges.ā€

To be fair, WV and PA have a lot more people with black lung disease than, say, New Mexico, but my understanding is that propping up mining companies is totally worth it.

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Oh jesus fucking christ, ā€œitā€™s a state issueā€. Goddamnit Lindsay thatā€™s the same tired bullshit southerners have been using since slavery. Insurance is a make the pool as large as possible so those that are healthy at the time can pay for those that arenā€™t and next time when the health are sick hopefully the previously sick will be health and not using. Give it a fucking rest and stick to spouting bs on the Sunday talk shows for godā€™s sake!

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Fun stuff, although I do not agree with his premise. There is a baseline that should be shared across states. And people need access to insurance. What coverage needs they have may very but it is better to not have to sort that out in each state to whatever degree possible.

States should feel free to adjust some aspects to meet their needs but it should not be what he is saying either. Also, individual health conditions of patients are not the same as policy goals of states.

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60 votes is an illusion. How many did scotus get?

Oh Cā€™MON!!! You smarmy little twerps couldnā€™t pass a bill to HELP the American people for 7+ years and NOW youā€™re coming out of the woodwork with ALL SORTS of ā€˜ideasā€™? Iā€™m sick of the lot of you!

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And theyā€™re right; that isnā€™t what McConnell is proposing.

What is Mitch McConnell smoking that he believes that he could peal off 8 Democrats to vote for that?

Well, he may still be smoking something but what heā€™s proposing is the gutting of the ACA that was passed in 2015 and vetoed by Obama in 2016.