Discussion: Secret White House Analysis Showed Even More Losing Care

I’m one of those supposedly “safe” ACA insured. My employer had to cover me because of ACA regulations. (I had been a “temporary” employee for 4 years-- that’s how they got out of giving me benefits.) I have no doubt as soon as they’re not required to give me the insurance, they’ll stop, with me uninsurable (pre-existing condition) and 3 years from Medicare.

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Anyone can play.

@pippenpippen I hate to see a fellow TPMer thrown into such turmoil because of what the Rs are saying and doing, but it’s entirely possible that the bill will never make it to the floor of the House. The thing is toxic and House members may not want to go on the record as voting for it for a couple of reasons including 2018 midterm elections. They won’t want to be on the record as supporting it and they also know it’ll be shot down in the Senate as Senator Cotton from AK spoke about earlier today. But the Rs will continue to talk about it as if it’s a viable proposal for the purposes of saving face.

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I’m absolutely shocked!

This White House can keep a secret?

BTW, love the juxtaposition of the photo showing four smug Republicans laughing it up while the headline reads more Americans losing care. Nice work!

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The next time Trump or one of his enablers whine about leaks I wish a journalist would state the obvious:

There wouldn’t be a leak problem were Trump emotionally stable and didn’t have a red-nosed, fascist alcoholic for an assistant and “chief strategist.”

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Is it to be called “trump Care” or “Ryan Care”? It doesn’t matter as it should actually be called “Republicans Don’t Care”.

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”A total of 54 million individuals would be uninsured in 2026 under the GOP plan, according to the White House analysis. That’s nearly double the number projected under current law.”

Jake: "What was that?"

Elwood: “We just threw a rod.”

Jake: “Is that serious?”

Elwood: “Yup.”

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Hell, Ryan himself was making the point, in a way, in his own Powerpoint presentation. He revealed the secret of bringing premiums down: stop paying for insurance for sick people.

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We aren’t supposed to take the Secret White House Analysis literally. What matters is what’s in the Double-Secret White House Analysis.

Adding: doesn’t the GOP plan cut off ACA taxes that were dedicated to Medicare? Does CBO score that, or do they leave it to the Medicare Board to judge the impact on the trust fund? Seems to me that it would be useful to have that second shoe drop in 48 hours or so.

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Yeah, health care financing reform is too complicated for the feeble minds of our GOP.

Sad.

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Older folks but younger than 65 face a 67% increase in their insurance premiums. That will get a lot of votes for the GOP from this age group, huh?

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Don’t need no insurance. Trump can heal me by laying his tiny hands on my pussy.

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Please no fake Trump tweets! It’s too much trouble trying to distinguish them from the real ones.

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I have a strong foreboding that the Rs are going to start selling the repeal with the “promise” of replacement, after we get the repeal done. And the worse fear that people will buy it and re-elect them in the mid-terms. :frowning:

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No real need to get “personal.” The fact is that if politicians truly respected people and respected the jobs they should be doing that they are elected to do, they wouldn’t hide crap like this. They’d lay it all out, good and bad, and let the people decide. LOLOLOL…oh, sorry, I think I just peed a little *&^%$#@!

I imagine one would have to be an asshole to get that joke or whatever one of them said to merit the guffaws.

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This White House does analysis???

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the whole “more covered at a lower cost” argument initially confused me, as insurance markets returning to any semblance of their pre-ACA form of rapid annual premium increases coupled with reduced policy coverage is anticipated by me to be anything but “lower cost”

but then it recently dawned on me… there is no intention of “lower cost” for me, or consumers, the lower cost is in reference to government bottom line and reduced costs (i.e. lower taxes) for the wealthy, I had completely the wrong frame of reference, a realization on a personal level of the apples vs oranges discussion which rules our reality (sureality perhaps?) these days when it comes to so-called policy discussions between disparate wings of the american political spectrum

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As Trevor Noah said: "I’m not a medical expert, but I feel like if one of the losers of your health care plan is sick people, you done fucked up!”

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That the WH’s projection came back worse and that it was made public struck me as odd for this White House.

  • Did the ‘Rogues’ that populate the WH (if you believe a thing on Twitter) band together to keep this report away from Bannon/Trump until after the release?

  • Did Trump willingly let this get published in order to put some distance between him and Ryan and perhaps to throw Ryan under the bus?

  • Were there just some out of touch deficit hawks/Kochians who thought that showing a drop in the deficit as an example of what gov’t can look like when you drown around 30 million people in the bathtub (to paraphrase Grover Norquist)?

Politically, if Ryan can’t get this through, his political career will hit an iceberg and might be done. Inside the WH, this report is bad for Pence, Priebus, Price and every Ryannite ideologue in the building.

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