Just as soon as Donnie resigns…
I believe the women accusing Conyers, just as I believe the women accusing the Groper-in-Chief…
If he chooses to resign, fine. If there’s an investigation, and the House votes to expel him, so be it. Short of that, it’s really up to his constituents, and calling for him to resign strikes me as grandstanding.
"Why are the rules for politicians in Washington different than they are for everyone else?”
I’m not sure. If I was accused by a fellow employee of these things, I’d get due process, not political hysteria and self-serving political grandstanding driven by a near unassailable presumption of guilt accompanied by demands for my summary dismissal and public pillorying.
Conyers is 88 years old!! When did these supposed “sexual harassment” cases occur?
I don’t doubt they “happened” even as the way the woman describe them. And I suppose it’s possible that a man well into his 80s could have a libido capable of this kind of meaningful behavior with sexual intent. But that would be the exception. More likely, Conyers is suffering from frontal lobe issues like impulse control and loss of executive functions. That is, Conyers has diminished capacity to explain his actions, much like former Pres. Bush 43 and the reports of his roving hands. That’s the more common case for men of advanced age. They remember sex, but it’s hard to take such action seriously.
So I suspect many people think he should retire due to his diminished capacity, not because it has caused him to act inappropriately to women, but because that diminished capacity prevents him from assessing inappropriate behavior (or perhaps even remembering). But he’s been such an icon that nobody wants to push him out for that to maintain his dignity.
But the notion that Conyers’ actions in his 80s is equivalent to run of the mill intentional sexual harassment is nonsense.
Conyers already paid his price, by the rules set up by Congress and per those prior rules, there was a gag order on talking about it. Agree or disagree on the gag rule is a separate issue, but Conyers paid his price and that was agreed to by all parties involved. We don’t get to re-try him, nor do we get to do it under rules now for something that happened in the past and was already dealth with. If there are current and uninvestigated accusations against him then they should be investigated before any calls to resign are made.
“We cannot pick and choose. Democrats cannot lambaste Trump and Moore, and then turn a blind eye to our own who face credible charges against them.”
I’m not seeing the picking and choosing here. Dems have been lambasted and no one is turning a blind eye even to the more specious of claims. So, WTF is she talking about? Or does it even matter anymore?
I know that Democrats love to feel better about themselves by committing political suicide, but let’s try to exercise some restraint. Let the process to work, have full investigations and fact-finding, and let the chips fall where they may. I don’t see Trump or Moore stepping down, but they may be forced to later.
If the company (a real one, not the Trump organisation) felt that they needed to pay a settlement, I suspect that in the vast majority of cases the employee would be gone, I know that technically these settlements involve no admission of wrongdoing, but if there was no merit to the accusations why did the taxpayers have to fork over cash? It’s a deep blue district-why not get a good young Democrat with a future in there?
Click bait headline by one of the usual suspects with story as substantial as cotton candy. Twitter shouldn’t be used as source of news reporting but there it it is.
The irony is that you are picking and choosing. Conyers and Franken are supposed to resign, while the far worse accusations against Trump are ignored and the pedophile seems likely to ascend to the Senate. Apparently the rules only apply to Democrats.
Trump and Moore resigned? Funny, you think that would have made the news.
And Supreme SOB Clarence Thomas too.
FOX: Ah…further proof that Democrats are racist!
Because it’s it the principle, stupid … which principle?
That principle which holds the office holder MUST resign…BECAUSE OF A FAILURE of principle … again, which principle?
WHO is making the DEMAND (?)
It would seem that Representatives Rice and Jayapal are graduates of the Donna Brazile Academy of Shooting Yourself in the Foot.
They need to focus on the BIGLY picture…
And The Arkansas Project and the whole fucking Republican “Family Values” Party performs Ritual Self Flagellation for going ballistic on Bill Clinton’s sex life just because he made a One Term President out of Mr. “Have you heard that joke about David-Cop-A-Feel?”
But the issues were already dealt with before we are just finding out about it now.
On the other hand Conyers is 88 and comes from a safe district, already has a road named after him. Best for him to move on.
Pick and choose? Jayapal and Rice both know there is a list of fifty offenders in Congress. Moore and Trump are beyond doubt as bad as anybody on that list and accused of far worse things than Conyers. And the most constructive thing these two can think of to do is to demand that Conyers resign immediately? Pick and choose, I’ll say.
Reform the procedures good. More transparency also good. See that the ethics investigation is sound. Yes, the outcome is predictable but you don’t get to skip due process.