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Gosh…aren’t you BRAVE, Scotty? ‘I’m not gonna SAY anything until I pack my legislature and THEN I’ll step up against all you America haters…’
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It won’t be popular around here, but I think his responses are perfectly fine. Why should he be drawn into this stupid debate about whether the President loves America? That is between the President and Rudy.
I haven’t heard Scott walker explicitly condemn the Holocaust and the actions of the Nazi Party in Germany so ‘I really can’t say’ if he is a supporter of the state of Israel and Jewish Americans.
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Well I don’t really know if Scott Walker receives illegal bribes from the Koch brothers, either. I haven’t discussed it with him, so I really can’t be certain. However, apparently it would be fair to speculate about any illegal activities that Walker may be committing until he assures me in person, item by item, that he’s not doing it.
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I wonder what type of syrup he likes with his waffles?
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Oh, my. When did it happen that everyone couldn’t just assume that the President of the United States loves America? (It happened when we elected a Black President…twice!)
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He can’t have it both ways: he can’t say that he doesn’t know and then turn around and defend Guiliani
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It should be obvious to anyone who knows how far Barack Obama has come from his very humble beginnings with no father in his life and only white grandparents and an itinerant white mother, his ability to become highly educated and get into public life, write two brilliant books and marry a brilliant woman and become a two-term president that he loves this country. Scottie again punted on a simple question and it’s pure weasel. Someone once asked Boner if he thought Obama was an American citizen and he said he could only take Obama at his word. It’s that kind of self-serving answer.
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The stuff the MSM considers to be news these days…
The Aunt Jemima brand, it’s nothing but corn syrup, and fake through and through.
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Perfect.
I enjoy living in America, I enjoy being an American, I love my wife, my daughters and My Nikon D800. But this little ditty from West Side Story kinda sums it up:
I like to be in America
Okay by me in America
and the rest of the lyrics make for some very interesting commentary.
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I hate to be on any side that Walker’s on, I despise the man, but I think he answered this about as well as he could. He should have condemned Giulianni for what he said, but I think Walker’s comments were otherwise ok.
Because Rudy said it while at a fundraiser for Scott Walker, while Scott Walker sat a few feet away. What Rudy did was essentially question the President’s patriotism. Walker just as easily could have said, I don’t question ANY president’s love for his or her country or their patriotism. Walker thinks that he’s playing it slick by not answering, but what he’s really doing is signaling to the racist in the republican base that he’s on their team. And most folk caught it.
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All of this is God, mom and apple pie bullshit. Anyone can say they love their country. Does anyone think that some subversive “mole”, if asked whether or not they love their country, would not answer “yes” in a nanosecond? Revolutionaries, counter revolutionaries and members of the status quo power structure all feel that they love their country - from their own points of view.
On some of the U.K. pound coins, there is an inscription, in Welsh, on the edge:
“Pleidiol Wyf I’m Gwlad”
It translates, “True, I am, to my country.”
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Pusillanimous.
“I’m not a scientist,” disqualifies.
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Sort of off-topic, but: When all this with Giuliani was first reported, I was reminded of the fact that this questioning of Obama’s love of country has been going on since, literally, the Democratic primaries in 2008. During the debate in Pennsylvania, a video questioner asked why Obama didn’t wear a flag lapel pin; after saying he reveres the flag, here’s his response:
“I am absolutely confident that during the general election, that when I’m in a debate with John McCain, people are not going to be questioning my patriotism; they are going to be questioning, how can you make people’s lives a little bit better?”
Re Walker’s response: I suppose he, like everyone else, sees how Chris Christie continues to be pilloried by Teh Base for physically and rhetorically embracing Obama after Hurricane Sandy, and the proto-candidates don’t want to make that same sort of mistake. So this is where we are: Obama’s going to be on the ballot in 2016, too, it appears; and things have reached such a pass among conservatives that even the most tepid of acknowledgements of Obama’s basic human decency and his love of country despite disagreements on policy will get people beaten up.
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I want to address a couple of posters who said they had no problem with Walker’s answer or that he answered it pretty well. I think if you say that, you have to add “in the context of a tragically polluted political discourse in which idiotic assertions are treated as worthy of debate.”
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