Discussion: Schumer, Senate Dems Urge Action On Bills To Stabilize Insurance Markets

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Yertle the Turtle will ignore any effort to stabilize the insurance market until/unless the TrumpNoCare bill goes down to defeat.

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At least they are on record supporting a smart initiative, but ole Yertle won’t do a thing about it. He’s got his marching orders from the Koch brothers and the .1%.

What, they expect the Rs to actually do something to help people? That’s not part of the Turtle/Ryan/Trump agenda.

After all, the Turtle is using the specter of bipartisan cooperation as a threat to get his conference to vote for the Trumpcare abomination.

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Wait. Thought Dems had no plans, stonewalling.

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The adults are speaking, I hope the MSM can STFU about Trump’s tweets to listen for a moment (looking at you MSNBC).

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Not only that, helping people violates the core beliefs of all Repuglicans.

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God forbid that the Republicans include the DEMOCRATS! of all people in any effort to pass any legislation that has a positive effect on the American people. If they let the Democrats get involved, then the product may actually prove to help people. Helping people is sacrilege to Republicans. Therefore, they cannot, under any circumstances, allow the Democrats to get involved in anything, lest they expose themselves as outright frauds who cannot accomplish anything on their own.

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Why would McC want to stabilize the insurance markets? He wants ACA to fail.

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The Democrats just called their bluff and proposed four, straightforward “fixes” to Obamacare issues. Will McConnell try to discredit these proposals or simply ignore them?

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His state is one that would fail BIGLIEST so he actually does have some skin in this one.

That being said, I am always fearful when the compromise sane party goes up against the scorched earth ideologue party - thanks to MSM “both sides do it” bullshit, The Dems are always made to look weak. It is very hard to win an argument with stupid, belligerent people. In the end, logic, facts, consequences hold no sway.

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Goodbye, economic recovery!

This uncertainty is going to hit every business in the pocketbook hard. Hell, insurers were already trying to extort 20% premium hikes on business plans even when the markets were solid.

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If you’re gonna say DemocRATS you need to say RepublICS too just to be fair.

Touche.

Will he bring it to the floor and face defeat? Will he make his own party members who are up for reelection next year go on the record as being for or against stripping tens of millions of their healthcare, either through direct cuts or eliminating pre-ex/lifetime cap conditions?

I don’t think McConnell will bring up such an important bill if he knows it will be defeated. But there is little I understand, or care to understand, about today’s GOP.

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With all due respect for some Kentuckians, @pluckyinky in particular, the good people of KY can go fuck themselves for giving us McConnell and Rand Paul.

If it was up to Rand Paul alone, he’d eliminate all healthcare that isn’t paid directly by a subscriber. No employer coverage, eliminate both Medicaid and Medicare. But he’d sure as shit keep his government coverage!

@marby - if McConnell had any smarts, he’d co-opt one or more of the Dems ideas and call them his own. But he’d rather let everyone suffer than admit that a Dem had a good idea.

There will be tens of thousands of jobs lost when insurers no longer need their ramped up staff that they hired to service the huge influx of new customers they got under the ACA. With no subsidies and no mandates, the rate of uninsured will skyrocket and the insurers will drop their redundant staff before their next fiscal year.

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Doubt it. He clearly realizes it won’t pass, which gives him the leverage to blame Democrats for blocking his “progress” in helping the American people choose “freedom.” Faced with the choice of letting the marketplace collapse because it is not properly funded, or ensuring that the marketplace survives by allocating $$ to make that possible, he will choose failure over progress, every time. His ego prevents him from acknowledging anything positive if it has the letter D in any way associated with it. The Dems have already proposed keeping the status quo alive for at least one more year. Acknowledging their proposal is, in itself, a defeat which he cannot stomach. He would rather sacrifice the health of this country than “lose” to a Democrat.

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When did the GOP become the party of premeditated murder?

(& @spencersmom, @marby) The funny thing is, there are around four pages in the Senate bill that would do much/most of what the Dems are proposing. Not actually surprising, since they’re obvious fixes to stabilize the markets, which the GOP would obviously want to do once Trump has signed a GOP bill and they’d indisputably own any results. In fact, a few smart people proposed a week or two ago that they could just pass those four pages (it’d probably get 70 votes or more) and look like the heroes who saved America’s health-care system. (Trump would’ve been ecstatic: he doesn’t give a sht about the substance, he’d just need to be told that people would love him and not be told it was saving Obamacare.) But their base and some of their members would’ve howled at the “betrayal” so now it’s a Dem initiative…:smirk:

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Never know what’s motivatin’ the Republicans these days, although the old $tandby seems to fit.

Wonder how this plays into McConell’s post-break plans?

Does the Republican plan even really have anything to do with healthcare at all anymore?

I’m just sayin’…