Haha! You got me there.
Are you sorry, Scarborough unfair?
That you gave him all that air time?
If heās in the White House - you helped him there.
He once was a true love of thine.
Tell me Barr his duty he shirks,
Parse your words neatly this time.
Is playing golf really hard work?
He once was a true love of thine.
The Dās are waiting for the people, us, to demand impeachment from our red state senators. Until there is enough public outcry to move those senators to vote Trump out, all theyāll do is strengthen the Republican base as happened with Mr. Clinton.
Why do you suppose the leadership isnāt asking the new congress people not to talk about impeachment? They need to amp up we the people. They donāt care how pissed we get at them, as long as the anger is enough to scare red state senators who are up for re-election. At that point the D leadership will impeach.
They are asking us to make them do it.
This is a great take. Barr is fighting with the tactics of the previous war and that seldom works out.
It isnāt spin if we can see you spinning. Just like if I can see the quarter between your fingers, it isnāt magic.
If I was Trump, Iād wonder if Barr wasnāt intentionally awful and is actually part of the Deep State that is out to embarrass Trump at every opportunity.
If the Clinton fiasco teaches us anything it teaches do not impeach if you do not have the votes to remove from office, it just strengthens the person being impeached.
One supposes you must be a Republican if you are to describe it as āfiasco,ā as that implies you were dissatisfied he wasnāt convicted in the Senate.
And it also appears that you do not remember that a Republican won the 2000 election and kept their majority in the Senate. This seems hardly the effect of a strengthened Democratic party or its candidate in that election.
Clinton paid a price for his impeachment. It did not go away; it hung around for the last two years of his presidency and beyond. It took him years to get his reputation as a very good president back.
No Democrat in the Senate voted for conviction on either of counts brought before the Senate. This basic math did not stop the Republican Party at all. Take note.
Indeed, follow Barrās money, and that of Barrās family, way into the future. Put him on notice that this will be done.
But he does have to pay for the golf cart.
I really donāt like Joe Scarborough. Like really donāt.
But he isnāt on FOX, which gives him a bit more respect from me than Chris Wallace, Shepard Smith, etc.
Hodor.
Sadly, itās not amazing at all the Republican enablers are still enabling. As for Democrats waiting for ārepublican permission to do their job:ā Show me 20 Republican Senators whoāll vote for removal, (or even 10 and a prayer), and Iāll join the impeachment bandwagon. Until then, any impeachment activity is just a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing. Investigate, yes. Oversee, yes. Showing the world we can govern by sending some good bills to die in the Senate, yes. But a failed impeachment trial that does nothing beyond making the purists feel pure, no.
(Note. Iām not accusing you of being a purist wanting to feel pure. This is general response to a lot of but not necessarily all impeachment talk, not a specific response to you.)
The question I have is why was it so easy for trump to get the gop to do his bidding
I respectfully disagree.
I know nothing about @denisj, but I suspect you are wrong about this. The Clinton impeachment was a hot mess no matter how glad you are that the hot mess failed.
Well, the two big reasons the Rās won in 2000 (aside from the Supreme Court assist) are: 1) it is very hard for a party to keep the White House after a two term residency. The only time this happened post-war was 1988. 2) Gore rather stupidly ran as an anti-Clinton when in fact Clinton was quite popular. There were also some Florida-specific reasons.
Was it the impeachment or the adultery? Cheating on your wife is not a good look whether you get impeached for it or not.
Rereading the above, it sounds harsher than intendedāI apologize for that. Iām afraid Iām not a good enough writer to fix it.
I am a lifelong DFL / Democrat so donāt make assumptions about something you know nothing about. Also Iām a poli sci major from the U of MN. In my opinion, one of our major problems in todayās political world is there is no room for opinions that do not exactly line up with our position.
From Wikipedia : After his impeachment proceedings in 1998 and 1999, Clintonās rating reached its highest point at 73% approval. He finished with a Gallup poll approval rating of 65%, higher than that of every other departing president measured since Harry Truman.
Again, in my opinion If you do not win a impeachment trial you just look stupid and the person charged comes out better than they were going in. Clinton jumped 10%.
AND they began being anti- 'WAY earlier than most other outlets.
They were anti-Trump as it closed in on the election
AND it got personal: Trump dissed Mikaās looks and they aināt EVER coming back from that.
That happened in summer of 2017, six months after the election.
I think they were less boosterish at election time but they were never really pro or anti-Trump, they just gave him tons of free and mostly non-critical publicity. Definitely went negative on him in 2017 and ever since, I totally agree,.
I beg to differ; in the beginning, TRUMPf was allowed to āphone ināā¦he is a fellow NEW YORKER, and actually was quite decentā¦there was no reason to assume he was toxic⦠then came the debatesā¦& .when he began trashing everyone. from disabled people to war veteransā¦SCARBOROUGH& MIKA turned on himā¦he was never allaowed toāphone inā after the debatesā¦IMO; SCARBOROUGH realized TRUMPf is not a REPUBLICAN⦠to this dayā¦no-one really knws what TRUMPf isā¦other than what he puts forth on his twitter thingā¦a self=serving toxic creepā¦everything he touches , dies, in one way or anotherā¦MIDAS, he aināt!!!
if the DEM. impeached TRUMPf and it did not remove him from officeā¦he becomes a martyr in the eyes of his supporters. and if he is voted out of officeā¦then there is no way he can claim to be the underdogā¦he can only be voted out If REPUBLICATIONS vote against him⦠by comparison⦠CLINTON was never accused of being disloyal to the USA⦠of conspiring with a foreign powerā¦
My timeline may be off, itās just the way I remember it.