Discussion: Scalise Remains In Critical Condition After Baseball Practice Shooting

Those kids had unarmed teachers standing between them and the shooter.

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Gun karma!

Its a real thing.

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Scalise will be fine. Confederate Paradise and the the 70 virgin slave girls will have to wait.

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He’s got a long stretch of rough rehab road ahead of him. From the description of his injuries, it sounds like the shooter was using hollow point rounds – hunting ammunition. (FWIW, they are banned for military use by the Geneva Conventions.) He’ll probably need a hip replacement and other orthopedic surgery to reassemble his pelvis.

As you note, he’ll never be the same. The bigger question is whether his experience will raise his consciousness about gun violence. I hope it does, but I suspect it will not.

Ayn Rand’s devotee Paul Ryan said yesterday, ā€œAn attack on one of us is an attack on all of usā€ (emphasis added). Pronouns are slippery things, and when Ryan spoke I was unsure about who his pronoun referred to. Is us the Members of Congress? Is us the GOP Members of Congress? Or is us every last human being on this rock? Inquiring minds would like to know.

One member (I don’t recall which now) said on NPR yesterday, ā€œYou don’t go to a baseball game expecting to be shot.ā€ I was alone in my car, but I had to reply, ā€œAnd elementary school children don’t go to school expecting to be shot, either.ā€

I fully expect that the response is going to be to tighten security around our already nearly inaccessible legislators. I don’t expect any kind of meaningful action to protect the rest of us.

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Agreed, though a full recovery is not possible if ACA is repealed. Scalise will have pre-existing conditions for the rest of his life.

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It really is astonishing how the obvious hearts and flowers surrounding any hideous tragedy become, in Washington and it’s media’s hands, the means by which to twist logic and bend facts to restore the corrupt status quo…devilish.

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He’ll probably be in the hospital for a long time. What people don’t often know about gun shot wounds is that, with high powered rifles, it’s not the bullet but, rather, the speed of the bullet that does most of the damage.

When a bullet enters the body at a high speed (much greater than the speed of sound) it causes a large shock wave inside the body that will do severe damage to all of the surrounding tissues. That means that the organs near the bullet’s pathway can be severely damaged even though they may look OK on initial inspection. This is why injuries like these can sometimes require multiple surgeries and prolonged hospitalizations.

Pelvic shots can be especially problematic because of how much they bleed. There are a lot of arteries coursing near and around the pelvic bones so, when a bullet goes through one of those bones, it shatters it causing bone fragments to sever the nearby arteries. Sometimes the bleeding is so intense that the source of the bleeding can’t even be found before the patient has lost several (or several dozen) units of blood.

When I was a medical student I did a trauma surgery rotation at LA County Hospital. The surgeons there would often tell us tales of pelvic shot victims that required more than 100 units of blood before being stabilized. I never saw such a case personally, though, which is perhaps just as well.

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I hope Scalise makes a full recovery, as well. Scalise will never pay a penny for all his medical care, now and for the rest of his life, for any medical issue - physical, rehabilitation or psychological - arising from the shooting. Moreover, if he should die as a result of the shooting or its aftermath - no matter how many years into the future - his wife will receive 80% of his salary for the rest of her life. I don’t begrudge Scalise a single one of these benefits that he will get under the federal employees compensation act, but I do think it is more than fair to ask him - once he recovers and gets out of the hospital - how he personally justifies getting all these benefits himself while stripping even basic health care from American taxpayers who are footing his bills.

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Critical condition…sort of like how Gabby Giffords was?

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She was shot by a crazy person, not a hate-spewing leftist pumped up by fake stories from the leftist media. Soros should be jailed for paying the shooter.

To fix this problem, we are going to need a tax cut for the 2% and a law requiring all assault-style rifles sold to be compatible with magazines holding at least 30 rounds.

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These are the same bozos who practically jumpes up and down yelling that that Second Amendment was in place for people to rebel against tyranny. They pretended not to notice how dumb the idea was of George Washington or one of the other founders saying ā€œAnd if you don’t like what we’re doing, you can shoot us.ā€

Yesterday, Scalise found out what that dumb idea meant.

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Is it sad, really? It certainly would be predictable, but sad? No, not to me it isn’t. This isn’t the first life this week that would be lost to gun madness, and as one of its cheerleaders and architects, it seems predictable that the effects would reach people like him eventually just due to the sheer volume of injuries and deaths.

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As yesterday’s shooter, and the Orlando nightclub shooter, and the San Bernadino office shooters would put it:

The NRA seems very happy to hear those words.

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My answer was [Shrug] ā€œOkay.ā€

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Somehow I find it hard to muster up a lot of sympathy here. Looking back over the last 6 decades, I can’t think of a single time that any rightwing political figure has been shot in a politically-motivated attack. I can, however, reel off quite a few names of public figures who stood up for equality and justice, who were assassinated: Dr. Martin Luther King, President John F. Kennedy, Attorney General Robert Kennedy, Malcolm X, Harvey Milk, civil rights workers Chaney, Goodman and Schwerner, unarmed black men shot down by police in the streets of their hometowns, little girls burned to death in their church … the list goes on.
With this attempted assassination, we as a nation must face our legacy of hate and violence and recognize where it issues from, who nurtures and abets it, enforce the laws that curb it.
We can’t kid ourselves any longer about what our nation is coming to.
Who was it that said, as you live by the sword so shall you die by the sword? Or words to that effect.

George Wallace, 1972.

The exception that proves the rule.

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Naw … he’ll just enjoy the status of a martyr for the cause from here on out. People like him will never change - they have no conscience, they are spiritually barren (no matter how devoutly they attend church services).
We can hope that someone in the GOP gang of crooks and sociopaths will wake up and smell the coffee.

ā€œSomething’s rotten in the State of Denmarkā€ - it goes far deeper than changing the gun laws.

What goes around comes around.

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enter link description here The 3 civil rights workers were trying to register black voters in Mississippi in 1964. What follows is a chilling expose’ of sleepy ol’ Mississippi’s violent underbelly. This has not gone away. This could have happened yesterday. It’s the country we live in, folks.
Here’s the hyperlink I tried to add: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Chaney,_Goodman,_and_Schwerner#Lynch_mob_forms

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