Discussion for article #244247
The US is long past due to switch friends in the region. The Saudis interests are not ours. Most seriously, they support radical Sunni groups, and radical Sunni groups, like ISIL, are a much bigger threat than radical Shia groups. The US shouldn’t try to antagonize either alignment unnecessarily, but insofar as they are in conflict, our interests are much closer to those of Iran, Iraq, the Assad regime and the Hezbollah, than they are with the Saudis and Israel.
The world is a mess.
Here’s the headline I’d really like to see:
U.S. Announces It’s Severing Ties With Saudi Arabia, Israel
I think you make valid points, but tell that to the 47 mutinous senators who take their marching orders from Netanyahu.
I agree that we need to be pragmatic and do what’s best for US, rather than the Sunnis, Shites, or even Israel for that matter.
If you were a True Leftist™, you would have written “…Saudi Arabia, The Zionist Entity.”
Please remember that for the future.
Now if they’ll call their terror proxies back home, we’ll be getting somewhere. The House of Saud needs war to try to divert their populace from the 50% increase in fuel prices and decreasing subsidies all around.
Saudis face fuel price jump under new austerity plan
Serious stuff.
It just reinforces that the best thing we can do nation security-wise is end our dependence on foreign oil. If we don’t need foreign oil then the Saudi’s would not have us in such a bind. And then there is the little issue of Saudi factions that fund terrorists…
Not at all. Things and alliances are shifting, that’s all. Saudi Arabia practices a barbarous form of justice–beheadings–then cuts off Iran for criticizing them for executing a leading Shiite cleric? It’s high time that the Saudis learn that their big oil bucks really should not permit them to export their retrograde brand of Islam–wahhabism–everywhere and cause the rise of extremist terrorism.
I’ve had enough of this nation.
Severing ties really doesn’t help anybody, it’s more of a pissing-match move, and a dangerous one for obvious reasons. Perhaps back when regime-change was all the rage the House of Saud would have been a more useful target.
Good. Let them do as they wish. The take home message for the West is the Sunni / Shia thing will never be resolved. Never. So there is no reason for the West to involve itself in a country’s turmoil if that feud is the underlying problem. As it is in Syria. Iran’s real interest there is protecting a Shia regime. Doesn’t matter how brutal or despised. It’s a Shia regime so it has to stand.
Saudi Arabia did not kill that Cleric for any crime that merits death. They killed him because he’s a Shia and Saudi Arabia is the center of the Sunni world. He was an Iranian, the center of the Shia world.
No American, Englishman, Frenchman or other coalition soldier should die for that crap. Those people hate each other and just about anyone unlike them. American’s should die for a worthy cause. A 1300 year old religious spat is not one.
Reason number One for why we do NOT want a Bush in the White House. If we had one, we would be airlifting troops into the region tonight. And preparing for a declaration of war on Iran.
Excellent point! The only problem is that Congress just legalized the export of American oil after a forty year ban. Rather that insuring that domestically produced crude oil is used to meet domestic needs, the Republican congress slipped in a provision into the $1.1 trillion budget bill revoking the ban and thus insuring that we will be dependent on oil imports for many years to come. Once again,short-term oil industry profits trump long-term national interests.
Nope. You are completely wrong.
So… Iran only finds executions objectionable when a cleric is executed. If Saudi Arabia had just been executing gays and apostates, Iran would be fine with it.
Not mentioned in the article was that there were 47 executions carried out, most by beheading but they were not public as most Saudi executions are.
More barbaric than injecting their prisoners with poison until they die like we do?
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