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Yes, gay print shop owner should print that sign. If your business is leveraging the USA’s infrastructure designed to serve all Americans, too bad so sad.
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Stupid, stupid man.
Stupid, stupid comment.
jw1
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What an incredibly misleading hedline, TPM. Shame.
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The headline reflects an unfortunate shift on this site toward irrelevant sensationalism.
His point is not well taken. If you bake a cake for a gay wedding you are not participating in the gay wedding you are working the gay wedding. Your activities don’t imply an endorsement.
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Because eating pizza at a wedding is the same as hate speech.
Your 21st century GOP ladies and Gentlemen!
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If you are in the public square then you have to serve all of the public, if your religion gets in the way then get out of business becasue you can not use religion to discriminate against any member of society.
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I think this is a valuable point for people on this side to consider. What exactly is the law here? How should Hillary Clinton respond when asked whether a gay printer should print God Hates Fags signs?
And yes, the headline sensationalizes and cheapens something that has some value and turns it into more unthinking “Idiot Republican” junk for the choir.
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Hell, I’m deeply offended every time this maladjusted freak opens his mouth, but the First Amendment gives him the right to babble his idiocies, so there you are. That’s how civil rights work—we consider them more important than individual feelings. Sometimes you just have to deal with it.
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So tell me …printing the Westboro Baptist Church slogan would be an unthinkable endorsement on the part of the gay printer and Santorum voluntarily quoting it on full on national TV is no form of endorsement whatsoever?
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Printing the signs doesn’t imply endorsement, so no on the first point.
Santorum has his agenda, but he’s still asking a valid question–one anyone investigating this issue should consider. So, the act of asking this question doesn’t imply endorsement. No on the second point also.
The master of pretzel logic.
Wrong! Wrong! Everybody’s got it wrong anyway…
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And this is where I think we just need some space to say let’s have some tolerance, be a two-way street," he continued.
In other words, “be more tolerant of my intolerance”. Sorry, but tolerance is not a two-way street. If we had real journalists in this country, one of them would ask if people of color should have to tolerate the KKK as you’re asking gays to tolerate those who hate them because of their sexual orientation.
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AMEN!
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Dan Savage in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1
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Yeah … If I run a coffee shop and I’m a white man, should I have to serve blacks at the same counter?!?
Didn’t we figure this all out a few decades ago?
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Am I missing something here? How can the government force someone to do business with someone they don’t want to do business with? If I want a cake for my gay wedding, I am going to use a bakery that has a good reputation as a bakery and whose customer service is in line with what I expect from a business in general. It seems to me that the problem would be for the businesses that have a problem or treat their customers with disdain - I don’t think they would be in business for very long or at the very least they would not be very profitable. The excuse for these “religious freedom” laws is lame. It just gives the religiots the ability to shout their beliefs at people that don’t share their beliefs. We already have the right in the country to participate in any religion of our choosing, so participate in your religion and I’ll participate (or not) in mine. If we are not careful, we are going to find ourselves in a religious confrontation in this country - much like the middle east.
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A business can’t be made to print hate speech.
What if someone came to a printer with a request to print “Kill all Jews” ? Do you think there’s any regulation that makes that mandatory?
Serving people pizza is not the same as printing hate speech.
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King of the false equivalencies. Because everyone knows that baking a cake for a gay couple is every bit as hateful as “God Hates Fags.”
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