Discussion: Sanders Says He'll Vote For Clinton But Still Not Ready To Drop Out

Watch the beatch run again as an independent

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No speaking slot - prime time or 3:00 AM - unless he gives a full throated endorsement of Hillary Clinton before the convention.

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Sanders was just asked about Clinton and wall street donations. He basically suggested Trump is better because Clinton takes donations. He said she still needs to convince him that she will work for the middle class. Fuck him. He is so full of himself. Clinton’s record and positions speak for themselves. It seems like there is nothing that would convince him they are on the same side.

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“I’m pretty good at arithmetic.”

Excellent! Where are your tax returns?

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This “letting them down gently” meme is just pure horseshit. This is about Bernie’s fetish for attention, not a means to get his supporters on board.

The longer Bernie stays in, the harder it will be to bring his supporters over. He makes no sense. He sounds like a deluded, bitter, angry old man. He’s a joke.

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Usually, no. It’s more from a housekeeping persepective…they have to finish all the clean up work, and that’s easier done with the campaign still being an on-going concern…paying off vendors, leases, salaries, debts…all of those things.

In Bernie’s case however, he is still pushing the delusion that he is running for President, and still taking money in from donors. My guess is, he is playing cute with the FEC campaign laws (as he has been thoughout the primary) and is toying with the idea of creating a third party. Not suspending his campaign keeps getting him these interviews (he was also just on CNN this morning, so he is making the circuit now), and he is leveraging for a speaking position at prime time.

My personal feelings is that the Democrats need to shut him down yesterday with great prejudice. Bernie is not going to give an endorsement speech at the convention, he will make yet another stump speech and call for his supporters to reject the Democratic party and help build the Bernie Party.

Even if someone doesn’t absolutely believe that will happen, they have to acknowledge that it is very much a possibility, and we simply cannot take the chance of Bernie doing something selfish and stupid at this point in the game.

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Letting them down slowly sends the message that supporting Clinton is a difficult thing to do. It makes it so his supporters will be less likely to ever vote for Clinton. Sanders is helping Trump by taking his time with this.

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"What we want is a government that represents all of us…

Sorry dude that’s humanly impossible. We have a majority rule and hopefully that majority will take it easy on the minority. Such is life.

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Put another way: Sorry,dude, no, the position of the minority does not get equal weight with the position of majority.

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Bernie Sanders will vote for Clinton, but not drop out ?

How does that work ?

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Sanders indicated that he is unwilling to concede to Clinton anytime soon when asked why he won’t withdraw from the primary. "Why would I want to do that…

I refer you to your previous sentence:

“I’m going to do everything I can to defeat Donald Trump”

It you are honest about the former, then you need to endorse and drop out.

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There’s 5 minutes they aren’t talking about trump…

I say relax.

There are 2 reasons I trust this is all fine.

  1. You all have said for months that Hillary is the strongest most qualified candidate, like ever. Such a candidate need not worry.

  2. 30 + years of caucusing with dems though he wasnt indebted to the party. He chose it, time and again.

It’s all coordinated. All this has the blessing of the HRC campaign.

It’s a slow walk for dramatic effect and to bring along the dead enders. If they are everything HRC supporters have said about them over the campaign it is needed.

If it wasn’t don’t you think we would have heard from the big dog? Damn, ‘anonymous sources’ would be dropping all kinds of hints this wasn’t OK if it wasn’t coordinated.

It’s all good.

Trust your candidate.

No. They do that so they can continue to legally take in funds and donations to retire campaign debt.

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As HRC did on 08, it will be done at the time of greatest advantage for the party and the candidate. Which in turn will also be good for Bernie and the country.

There would be no muzzling the big dog if this wasn’t all coordinated and agreed to. I’d like to think we could all agree there.

In 2008 Clinton suspended and endorsed 4 days after the last primary. Which in the 2016 calendar was over two weeks ago. And Clinton called for nomination by acclimation from the convention floor, not vowing to fight in the convention and training her PUMAs on how to protest and get arrested.

I get where you are coming from, that this is a stage-managed “let the air out of the ballon” type orchestrated series of moves, but I’ll believe it when I see it given Sanders history (both recent and going back all the way to his being a local pol in Vermont).

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There’s horse left that barn already, now it is being handled by professionals from both campaigns. As has always been done.

08 was unprecedented in how long it took after ‘the math’ was clear.

16 is the logical extension of this.

After yesterday’s Brexit election, it looks like Trump’s fellow buffoon Boris Johnson is about to become PM in Britain. This sh!t is getting real. Time for Bernie to get with the program and get Clinton elected.

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No it wasn’t. Because Clinton actually (depending on how you factor in MI’s odd primary contest) got more of the popular vote, and it was only when the super delegates shifted en masse that the “math became clear”.

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CBS had Bernie on this morning. Why? What a mistake. He went on to explain that he is holding Hillary hostage until she states exactly what he want her to say… Crazy as a loon!

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