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I think one of the problems with polls today, as well noted elsewhere, is the difficulty of said pollsters coming to grips with the non-response rate of those w/o land lines and those on the Federal Do Not Call list like me. Here, in the largest collar county (DuPage) close to Chicago, on Monday the day before the Illinois primary, Iāve received zero calls on my cell.
Now, thatās the way I want it, and yes, pollsters say they have adjusted for this issue yet I still wonder how skewed said polls are.
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first to show the socialist insurgent overtaking the Democratic frontrunner there
Do you need to be so obvious on who are pulling for TPM?
On 3-6 she was up by almost 40, and now heās ahead? Did she shoot someone over the weekend? Am I the only one that finds those two polls a little bit suspect? It makes great headlines though!
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I suspect that a lot of this is more āre-calibrationā of the likely voter model rather than a massive shift in voter sentiment here. This poll is still an outlier, though we shall see if itās accurate shortly.
Different polls and everyone scrambling to figure out if the Michigan results are a signal that their likely voter screens/expected voter population might be wrong. Iād presume that the CBS/Yougov poll is assuming that Illinois is going to look like Michigan, so theyāve tweaked their LV screen/makeup to match. Itās an interesting question whether Michigan is an outlier or is actually a decent model for the upper midwest, and weāll get to see shortly.
Polls for states voting in the next two weeks:
Trump winning: OH, FL, Il, MS, MI, NC, KS, KY, LA
Trump losing:
THIS is the only poll we need to focus on.
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THIS is what we need to do period.
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Clinton is on track to win the primary and lose the general because she hasnāt got a clue when it comes to the lives destroyed by Wall Street. Wall Street decimated American manufacturing by outsourcing, drained the limited personal wealth of millions with fraudulent mortgages, and plunged the country deep in debt thru excessive risk taking; and to Cinton they are just ordinary people around her and the good friends funding her campaign. Clinton will look out for her good friends and not us. No way she will unite the party behind her, she probably wonāt even try because she feels we owe her the Presidency.
This whole election feels like the bread and circuses the oligarchy provides to hide the fact that they will make Clinton president whether we like it or not. Trump is just the pro-wrestling bad boy created for the golden granny to put down.
Once Bernie Sanders is out of the race, no matter who wins, we lose.
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Unbelievable. āGolden grannyā was a nice touch. I can only hope there arenāt enough people like you to throw this country to Trump. Delusion is not the sole property of the right, it seems.
Itās only an āoutlierā insofar as itās the first to show Sanders ahead. But when you consider the 5.5% margin of error, the slim two percent lead, and other polls confirming the near dead heat of the candidates itās really not much of an outlier.
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The Nation: How Donald Trump Could Beat Hillary Clinton
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The only one that can throw the country to Trump is Hillary. If Trump = anti-establishment, and Hillary = establishment, she is not the best candidate to fight trump.
If you look how she talks, āIām going toā¦ I thinkā¦ I wantā¦ā she does come across as someone thatās running because she just wants to be president, not because she has a message thatās resonating with anyone.
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Sorry pal, we lose if a Republican wins the presidency. Think again about what you wrote. Do you really think Hillary Clinton would be worse than a Republican President? .
Perhaps it would have been clearer if I called Hillary the āGoldman grannyā.
Republicans seem to have some doubt whether Trump is really a Republican, just as some Democrats have doubt if Clinton is really a Democrat.
The kind of heads-I-win tails-you-lose delema where we have 2 parties that are both pro-business and anti-labor is further illustrated in the article today that if Obama appoints another Supreme Court justice, his pick will also be pro-business. So no matter who wins, business gets what it wants, and the people who work get whatever leftovers Wall street will allow. Itās been the same since Bill Clinton and the DLC corrupted the Democratic party; Democratic Presidential candidates will only and can only offer liberal stands on social issues, on fiscal issues they are exactly the same as Republicans. Hillary continues that tradition, and the middle class will soon be too poor to fund a candidate like Sanders, so the enslavement will be complete.
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